What is the final speed of the block before it hits the ground in each case?

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The discussion revolves around determining the final speed of a block just before it hits the ground using work and energy principles. The problem involves two scenarios: one with a frictionless table and another with a coefficient of kinetic friction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the work-energy principle and conservation of energy for both cases. Some express uncertainty about how the mass dynamics affect movement, particularly in relation to friction and mass ratios.

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Some participants have suggested using conservation of total energy as a guiding principle for the solution. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of mass and friction on the system's behavior, with no clear consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about mass relationships and the effects of friction, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts as they relate to the problem setup.

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In the figure, m1 = 3.0 kg. Use work and energy to find the speed of the m2 = 1.7 kg block just before it hits the floor in each of the following cases.

http://www.webassign.net/knight/p11-48alt.gif

(a) The table is frictionless.
. m/s
(b) The coefficient of kinetic friction of the 3.0 kg block is 0.15.
m/s


F= mg
F= mg-Muk*n
 
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Please show some attempt at a solution using the requested work-energy approach. I would suggest using the conservation of total energy principle for each case.
 
I honestly don't know where to start, I thought if the mass on top was heavier than the mass hanging wouldn't move.
 
ChrisMC said:
I honestly don't know where to start, I thought if the mass on top was heavier than the mass hanging wouldn't move.
well,no, on a frictionless surface, for example, the mass on the table could be enormous, but it would move with just the slightest force acting on it (the hanging mass could be therefore quite small). Are you familiar with the conservation of energy equations? Try writing them for the frictionless case, and then for the friction case.
 

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