Why Does Adding Resistors Change the Calculation in Circuit Analysis?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the calculation of voltage in a circuit analysis problem involving resistors. Participants are exploring the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance in a series circuit, particularly focusing on why certain resistors are included in voltage calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the calculation of voltage v1, questioning why the 8Ω resistor is included in the equation v1=(12+8)*1/8 instead of using v1=12*(1/8).
  • Another participant explains that the voltage is taken across both the 12Ω and 8Ω resistors in series, indicating that the total voltage across these resistors must be considered for accurate calculation.
  • A third participant acknowledges their inexperience with the topic and appreciates the feedback provided.
  • One participant points out that the diagram does not clearly indicate the reference points for measuring voltage, suggesting that voltage symbols associated with components versus junctions can lead to confusion.
  • This participant advises that when uncertain, it is helpful to document assumptions made during calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the clarity of the problem's presentation, with some agreeing that the diagram could be misleading while others focus on the technical aspects of the voltage calculation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding due to unclear diagrammatic representations and the necessity of defining reference points for voltage measurements.

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I am trying to follow examples solved by the publisher of my book in order to understand the problem. However, I can't understand why he is solving it like this. What is confusing me, is why v1=(12+8)*1/8

why is v1 not 12*(1/8). Why is he adding the 8ohm resistor in there? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Heres the link to the practice Problem. Its it P.P.4.2 (the second one) Thank you.


http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/dl/free/0073380571/938347/Chapt04PP_120121.pdf
 
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You mean ex. P.P.4.2?

That relation is because V=IR ... he's added the 8Ω resister because the voltage is taken across the 12 and the 8 in series. Your calculation would give you the voltage across the 12Ω resister only. That would be 1.5V ... with the 1V drop across the 8 gives a total of 2.5V.

The question being answered seems to be, how does the supply voltage relate to the voltage across the 8Ω resister?
 
Thank you. I m new to this topic so I appreciate your feedback on something that may seem simple to most of you in here.
 
To be fair - it was not obvious from the diagram what v1 was in relation to.
You need two points to make a voltage - not just one like they drew.

Sometimes the voltage symbol is clearly associated with a component like with V0 and Vs - then the voltage across the component is intended. When it is associated with a point on a wire - in this case, a junction - then it is usually safe to take it between that point and an obvious 0V point which, in this case, would be the position of the ground symbol.

If you have to guess like that - write it down as part of your working.
Cheers.
 

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