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[Orodruin]

There were over two dozen words I could have played for my second guess to guarantee a win in 3.

I could have played a filter out of the list of remaining words ... but with a list of 4 remaining words where 3 of them are to each other and filters to the 4th, I was the same expectation if doing it randomly ...

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,383 3/6

[ARISE] 4 left
[PUNCH] filter - 1 left
[CURSE]

Wordle 1 383 4/6






Bah!

I'm pretty sure the Wordle team read your previous comment and is just screwing with you.

I chose the safe way this time.

 

[dwarde]

Good grief with only three words to chose from I picked number four.

Wordle 1,383 4/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 384 2/6





Ka-CHING!

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,384 3/6

BEARD 27 left
SPLAT 2 left

 

[Orodruin]

"I’ve been playing Wordle daily, and one of the best strategies I use is starting with words that have a mix of common vowels and consonants, like "CRANE", "SLATE", or "AUDIO". This helps eliminate multiple possibilities early on.

Another effective trick is paying attention to letter patterns. If I get a green letter in the second position, I try to think of words that fit that structure instead of randomly guessing. Also, avoiding repeated letters in the first few attempts saves turns.
Does anyone else have a go-to strategy that works well for them?"

You will find that people here have generally have developed methods that go quite some distance beyond that, which is quite basic to be perfectly frank. My own is based on a hybrid between expected information gain (which is a well defined mathematical quantity) and occasionally applying selection based on human interference (essentially, taking into account that there is an editor behind it all). I have created a spreadsheet that does the hard lifting for me when it comes to computing expectations of guesses.

Also, avoiding repeated letters in the first few attempts saves turns.

This is not generally true. It depends on what the outcome of your first guesses are. Many times, including double letters will actually be preferable to not doing so - if you on average will get more information by doing so.

 

[sbrothy]

"I’ve been playing Wordle daily, and one of the best strategies I use is starting with words that have a mix of common vowels and consonants, like "CRANE", "SLATE", or "AUDIO". This helps eliminate multiple possibilities early on.

Another effective trick is paying attention to letter patterns. If I get a green letter in the second position, I try to think of words that fit that structure instead of randomly guessing. Also, avoiding repeated letters in the first few attempts saves turns.
Does anyone else have a go-to strategy that works well for them?"

I can't really blame you for not reading the entire thread. My favorites are "IRATE" and "AUREI".

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,384 3/6

[ARISE] 4 left: SAFER SANER SHEAR SWEAR
[WINCH] filter - 1 left
[SHEAR]

My intuition has been off lately, so I'm playing safer. So I was tempted to play SAFER, but thank God I didn't!

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,384 3/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,385 5/6

DEBAR 58
SCOUT 8
WRYLY 3 : OOPS! forgot to turn off some recently installed switches. Should have been GAWKY, guaranteeing a win in 4.
GRAFF 1

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,385 3/6

[ARISE] 11 left - BRICK CRICK DRIFT DRILL FRILL FRITZ GRILL KRILL PRIVY TRICK WRING
[STALK] filter - 1 left
[KRILL]

@OmCheeto , may I ask how you select your seed? I see you change often.

 

[OmCheeto]

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@OmCheeto , may I ask how you select your seed? I see you change often.

This quarter, It's a rolling set of anagrams from the top 100 ranked seeds.
Examples:
LEAST & STEAL
SPARE & PARSE
RINSE & SIREN
ARSTY & SATYR
25 in total

I'm thinking of switching to a new group based on letter frequency lag. I haven't tried that yet. I've probably tried at least a half dozen methods so far. Of course, the worst was when I first started this weird game and used WEIRD as my seed for the first 250 games yielding an average score of 4.132. Then I switched to SLATE for the next 33 days and had an average of 3.576. Then I was all over the place with different types of word sets. Anagrams being the theme of the last 52 games, with an average of 3.404.

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 385 3/6

 

[dwarde]

Just tossing words at the wall again

Wordle 1,385 5/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 386 3/6




ARISE - 62 left - CANAL, best filter - 1 left - FOAMY

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,386 4/6

TRUCE 154
NOISY 15
DWALM 1
FOAMY

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,386 3/6

[ARISE] 61 left
[OCTYL] filter - 1 left
[FOAMY]

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,386 5/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,387 4/6

LATER 34
SCION 3
QUAIL 1
VILLA

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 387 3/6

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,387 4/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,387 3/6

[ARISE] 12 left
[CLAIM] possible answer + filter - 1 left
[VILLA]

 

[Orodruin]

[CLAIM] possible answer + filter - 1 left

Interesting. I played PLAIN here. CLAIM got severely punished by the fact that it was listed twice in my set of possible solutions for some reason.

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,387 4/6

 

[jack action]

Interesting. I played PLAIN here. CLAIM got severely punished by the fact that it was listed twice in my set of possible solutions for some reason.

My program suggested CLAMP. Looking through the possible answers, I found that CLAIM would be close enough and decided to wing it.

I was losing the P for three words — PIZZA, PLAID, and PLAIN — but the last two had the same middle letter arrangement as CLAIM. Plus, I could easily identify two words with an M — MAFIA, MANIC — and three others with a C — CABIN, CACTI, CAVIL (and MANIC again). I contemplated PLAIN for a while, but I did not find [intuitively] the P and the N to be as helpful.

 

[Orodruin]

My program suggested CLAMP. Looking through the possible answers, I found that CLAIM would be close enough and decided to wing it.

I was losing the P for three words — PIZZA, PLAID, and PLAIN — but the last two had the same middle letter arrangement as CLAIM. Plus, I could easily identify two words with an M — MAFIA, MANIC — and three others with a C — CABIN, CACTI, CAVIL (and MANIC again). I contemplated PLAIN for a while, but I did not find [intuitively] the P and the N to be as helpful.

Information wise, they were equivalent. Had I not has a duplicate in the list their score would have been tied

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,388 4/6

YEAST 47
LADEN 4
BHANG 1

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,388 4/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,388 4/6

[ARISE] 30 left
[GLINT] filter - 4 left: FECAL FELLA HAZEL LEACH
[LEACH] filter - 1 left
[HAZEL]

 

[Orodruin]

I made a minor update to my sheet. After entering the result of the day and removing the solution from the available word list, the sheet will now first rank the remaining words based upon how many times its letters appear among the remaining words (only counting unique letters to avoid things like MELEE ...). It then computes the expected remaining entropy for using the top 8 ones as seed and reports the results. This will tell me if there is ever a need to switch seed because the word pool has changed.

Here is the current list:

ARISE is still going strong, but SANER has unexpectedly made some headway and is now surpassing AROSE.

 

[jack action]

ARISE is still going strong, but SANER has unexpectedly made some headway and is now surpassing AROSE.

I evaluate them every day, and it is in that order most of the time. AROSE very rarely surpasses SANER. Here is my current list (before today's puzzle), long enough to cover all your top 8 (starred):

3862.85156890896918324066 arise *
3937.75082809237794768011 saner *
3981.12601797272318357204 arose *
3994.14348926573530923438 least *
4016.56347439043584775312 later *
4050.80517740493989999284 siren
4057.20684663117430858211 parse
4094.46022369776849418334 suite
4104.00006619908480497652 rinse
4108.67042513870040574147 leant
4112.97260068974329077072 roast
4154.96503180170756616140 sonar
4166.33954598402884241540 paler
4178.74407090985604950358 caste
4180.57832719655648548726 renal *
4182.79647267920557232341 steal *
4184.07662861775905586884 spare
4189.05259875710669270640 trial
4193.09646728633886950545 slain
4197.29715414373783809395 dealt
4200.47149765421053480410 snore
4201.85833649016147880499 salon
4202.06659772223064318134 slide
4207.82769308733742538087 paste
4211.76900290561743199304 shale
4216.80686872592693461017 sauce
4219.51964166335178358335 plier
4226.60457258212252257253 slant
4226.96098441278024131522 satin
4232.15150709750107582386 lance
4244.08011753865363604157 plane
4244.63898143896284017821 glare
4245.15859957800025535041 tried
4247.17239025441510322886 slime
4248.72132263633807259833 tripe
4250.11566368397158836947 aider
4266.42989969689150731154 tread
4271.77328140546517288684 tenor
4275.23240250203260511520 tamer
4280.74049610062999781488 cleat
4283.83292987458541709361 nurse
4283.88209422974851245953 arson
4284.84487562627907930273 baler
4286.76747738681566909252 yeast
4294.03916906983119883191 urine
4299.42197986686600841388 relay *

Ref.: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/wordle-lovers-play-the-nyt-daily-game.1016903/post-7240676

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,388 5/6

 

[sbrothy]

Ech.

Wordle 1,388 6/6*

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[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 389 2/6




All too easy

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,389 2/6

SANER 1
SPARE

All too easy

I concur.

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,389 5/6

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,389 2/6

[ARISE] 1 left
[SPARE]

Wordle 1,389 5/6

Also getting it with three guesses if you are using aids is not so impressive anymore.

In the last 7 games you played, you only found one in 3 guesses. Today, three people are getting it in 2, while you have it in 5. Are you impressed now?

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,389 2/6

[ARISE] 1 left
[SPARE]



In the last 7 games you played, you only found one in 3 guesses. Today, three people are getting it in 2, while you have it in 5. Are you impressed now?

I am only using my head.

 

[dwarde]

Lucky guess, there were about five words that fit doing it by the seat of my pants.

Wordle 1,389 3/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 390 3/6

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,390 5/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,390 3/6

STEAL 2
TREAD 1 Chosen with random number generator
WHEAT

So close to back to back '2's!

 

[Orodruin]

So close to back to back '2's!

Reminds me of my ”golden week” back at the end of last year. Two back-to-back 2s in the same week. It was crazy (and before the spreadsheet!)

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,390 3/6

[ARISE] 29 left
[GLINT] filter - 1 left
[WHEAT]

 

[dwarde]

Wordle 1,390 3/6

 

[Orodruin]

Wordle 1 391 3/6

 

[OmCheeto]

Wordle 1,391 3/6

SIREN 27
TUMOR 1
TURBO

 

[martinbn]

Wordle 1,391 4/6

WATER
ROUTS
COURT
TURBO

 

[jack action]

Wordle 1,391 4/6

[ARISE] 29 left
[YOUTH] filter - 2 left: TUMOR TURBO
[TUMOR] most probable (Tough one: one is too negative, but they almost never used technical terms)
[TURBOTechnical term, it is!

most-probable method count update (Success/Fail): 70/40 - 63.6%/36.4%

 

[sbrothy]

Wordle 1,391 4/6*

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