Final temperature of system containing ice and a copper can when steam is added?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of a system containing ice and a copper calorimeter after adding steam. The initial setup includes 0.950 kg of ice at 0°C and 0.0350 kg of steam at 100°C. The participant initially assumes all ice melts and steam condenses, leading to a calculated temperature of 76.6°C, which is incorrect. The error is identified in the heat transfer equations, specifically in the temperature terms used for the steam cooling, which should reflect the correct final temperature. The correct approach indicates that the final temperature is actually 86.1°C, highlighting the importance of accurate temperature representation in heat transfer calculations.
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Homework Statement


A copper calorimeter can with mass 0.466kg contains 00950kg of ice. The system is initially at 0.0C. If 0.0350kg of steam at 100C and 1atm pressure is added to the can, what is the final temperature of the calorimeter can and its contents?

Homework Equations


Q=mL
Q=mcΔT

The Attempt at a Solution


I am going to assume all the ice melts and all the steam boils. If my answer is between 0C and 100C then I know that this is true. If it is below 0C or above 100C I will have to solve it differently.

Thus we have
-->Q(copper) + Q(ice melt) + Q(water warming) = Q(steam condensing) + Q(water cooling)
-->(0.446kg)(390)(Tf-0) + (0.095kg)(334000) + (0.095kg)(4190)(Tf-0) = (0.035)(2256000) + (0.035)(4190)(Tf-100)
When I solve this I get 76.6C, however the answer is 86.1C.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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JustinLiang said:
-->Q(copper) + Q(ice melt) + Q(water warming) = Q(steam condensing) + Q(water cooling)
-->(0.446kg)(390)(Tf-0) + (0.095kg)(334000) + (0.095kg)(4190)(Tf-0) = (0.035)(2256000) + (0.035)(4190)(Tf-100)


What am I doing wrong?

The red one. It should be 100-T, as the term means the heat added to the ice, a positive quantity.

ehild
 
ehild said:
The red one. It should be 100-T, as the term means the heat added to the ice, a positive quantity.

ehild

I always see it as change in temperature? When you put it as 100-T doesn't that mean the final temperature is 100 and the initial is Tf? I am still very confused :S
 
You wrote all terms required to warm up the ice and calorimeter on the left hand side, and the heat amounts available on the right-hand side. These are the heat released at deposition and the heat released during the cooling of the hot water, proportional to 100-Tf, otherwise it would be negative.

ehild
 
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