Pulley system (ideal pulley) Find the angle with vertical line

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving an ideal pulley system with no friction. Participants confirm the equations for tension (T1 and T2) and derive that the angle θ between the tension forces is 45 degrees. The acceleration of the blocks is expressed as a = m1*g/(m1+m2). The conversation concludes with the understanding that substituting this acceleration into the equations will yield the values for T1 and T2. Overall, the analysis emphasizes the importance of vector addition in determining the forces acting on the pulley.
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Ideal pulley and strings, no friction.The pulley and the second string don't move.
I need to find the numerical value of theta, the acceleration of the two blocks and the tensions.Accelerations and tension must be given in terms of m and g.I guess
2T1=T2
T1=m2*a
m1*g-T1=m1*aTo find theta I need to know the angle between T2 and T2*cosθ.
Are these equations correct?What is missing?
 

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Hi thirteenheath, welcome to PF.

T2, the tension in chord 2 is not parallel with the forces of tension (T1, one horizontal and one vertical), chord 1 exerts on the pulley. Add them as vectors to get the force on the pulley. As the pulley does not move, the resultant of the tensions must be zero.
You can eliminate T1 from the last two equation and get the acceleration of the blocks.

ehild
 
Thanks ehild!

Oh I see...So if I understood we'll have

T1=T2*cosθ

T1=T2*sinθ

Then cosθ=sinθ and θ=45°.

Plus, through the last two equations in the previous post we find that

a=m1*g/(m1+m2).

Now I just need to replace the acceleration in any of the previous equations to find the values of T1 and T2.

Is that it?

Thanks again. =)
 
thirteenheath said:
Thanks ehild!

Oh I see...So if I understood we'll have

T1=T2*cosθ

T1=T2*sinθ

Then cosθ=sinθ and θ=45°.

Plus, through the last two equations in the previous post we find that

a=m1*g/(m1+m2).


Now I just need to replace the acceleration in any of the previous equations to find the values of T1 and T2.

Is that it?

Thanks again. =)

Yes, it will be all right.

ehild
 
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