Angular Momentum of a rotating mass

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The problem involves a 3.2-kg bob rotating around a horizontal circular path, with a focus on the effects of changing tension in the cord and the resulting angular momentum. The discussion centers on the relationship between angular momentum, tension, and the angle of the cord with respect to the vertical axis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the conservation of angular momentum and the relationship between the moment of inertia and angular velocity. Questions arise regarding the angle theta and its variation during the motion. Some participants suggest using Newton's laws to determine theta.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions about the angle theta and its impact on the calculations. There is acknowledgment of the role of gravity and tension in the system, and some guidance is provided regarding the need to consider these forces in the analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of accurately marking the angle theta in the diagram, as it affects the calculations. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the correct approach to finding theta and its implications for the conservation of angular momentum.

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1. Homework Statement

When the 3.2-kg bob is given a horizontal speed of 1.5 m/s, it begins to rotate around the horizontal circular path A. The force F on the cord is increased, the bob rises and then rotates around the horizontal circular path B. (picture included)

Homework Equations


L = I ω v = rω

The Attempt at a Solution


The solution from the book goes into a long procedure with summation of forces to find the angle etc. I tried this

Since there is no moment about the z axis angular momentum is conserved about the z axis. I1ω1 = I2ω2
For a particle I= mr2 so initially, I = (3.2)(0.6sinθ)2 and after I = (3.2)(0.3sinθ)2. For ω, initially it is (0.6)(sinθ)(1.5m/s) at the end is is (0.3sinθ)(v2)

Setting these equal to each other and solving gives v=12m/s But the answer is 2m/s Not sure where I am going wrong. Thank you!
 

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You don't seem to mark theta on your diagram. I assume it is the angle the chord makes with the z axis. If so, it will not be the same in both positions.
As the tension increases, the "orbit" becomes more horizontal and theta changes.
 
Ah that would explain it. I think i need to find theta using Newton's laws. Then I can apply it to the conservation of angular momentum.

Thank You.
 
Remember that the reason the ball is not just spinning with the chord horizontal, is gravity. The tension in the chord is providing the opposition to gravity as well as centripetal force.
 

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