Calculating work heat, and efficiency given a TS diagram

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Calculating work, heat transfer, and efficiency in a thermodynamic system can be done using a Temperature vs. Entropy (T-S) diagram. The area within the closed curve on the T-S diagram represents the work done, and for a cyclic process, the relationship Q = W holds true since the change in internal energy (∆U) is zero. Efficiency can be calculated using the equations e = 1 - (Qc/Qh) and e = W/Qh, where Qh and Qc correspond to the heat transfers at different temperatures. It is important to note that T-S diagrams are valid for reversible processes only, as they represent equilibrium states. Understanding these principles allows for accurate calculations of thermodynamic properties in closed cycles.
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Homework Statement



Is it possible to calculate the work done heat transfer, and efficiency of an object in a thermodynamic system, given the Temperature vs Entropy graph?

Example:
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Homework Equations



∆U=Q-W
∆S=dQ/T
e=1-(Qc/Qh)
e=W/Qh

The Attempt at a Solution



Since this is a T vs S diagram,i can understand how the product(area) will be heat.
Since it's a cyclic process, I can also understand how Q=W , since ∆U=0
Currently I'm thinking that the area inside the triangle will be W, which also corresponds to Q. However, I could barely find any documentation on this, which is why I wanted to confirm it.

As for efficiency, we are given two equations:
1-(Qc/Qh)
and
W/Qh
Would both of them be correct here, and would Qh and Qc be T2 and T1 respectively?

Thanks!
 
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abobo37 said:

Homework Statement



Is it possible to calculate the work done heat transfer, and efficiency of an object in a thermodynamic system, given the Temperature vs Pressure graph?

Example:
b7FPPj6.png

Homework Equations



∆U=Q-W
∆S=dQ/T
e=1-(Qc/Qh)
e=W/Qh

The Attempt at a Solution



Since this is a T vs S diagram,i can understand how the product(area) will be heat.
Since it's a cyclic process, I can also understand how Q=W , since ∆U=0
Currently I'm thinking that the area inside the triangle will be W, which also corresponds to Q. However, I could barely find any documentation on this, which is why I wanted to confirm it.

As for efficiency, we are given two equations:
1-(Qc/Qh)
and
W/Qh
Would both of them be correct here, and would Qh and Qc be T2 and T1 respectively?

Thanks!
Is a T-S diagram a plot of Temperature vs. Pressure?
 
SteamKing said:
Is a T-S diagram a plot of Temperature vs. Pressure?
I'm so sorry, I meant entropy. I will edit it! :D
 
abobo37 said:

Homework Statement


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]

Since this is a T vs S diagram,i can understand how the product(area) will be heat.
Since it's a cyclic process, I can also understand how Q=W , since ∆U=0
Currently I'm thinking that the area inside the triangle will be W, which also corresponds to Q. However, I could barely find any documentation on this, which is why I wanted to confirm it.

As for efficiency, we are given two equations:
1-(Qc/Qh)
and
W/Qh
Would both of them be correct here
Certainly, since these are both statements of the 1st law.
and would Qh and Qc be T2 and T1 respectively?
For a Carnot cyccle, yes. A T-S diagram is valid for reversible processes only since entropy is defined for equilibrium states only.
T-S diagrams are ideal for reading heats in a closed cycle:
Qh = positive area under curve (going from left to right)
Qc = negative area under curve (going from right to left)
So Qh - Qc per cycle = area within the closed curve, as you correctly state, and = W also. And e = 1 - (Qc/Qh).
 
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Thanks for confirming!
 
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