Calculation of the rise in the temperature of a truck brake

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the temperature rise in truck brakes due to potential energy conversion during descent. Participants are examining the relationship between gravitational potential energy, heat generation, and temperature change in the context of friction and heat loss.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are questioning whether all potential energy is converted to heat in the brakes or if a significant portion is lost to the environment. There is also consideration of the role of friction, including rolling resistance, and its impact on the calculations. Some participants express uncertainty about the validity of the provided answer and the implications of heat retention percentages.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored regarding energy loss and heat retention. Participants are sharing insights and raising questions about the assumptions made in the problem statement, particularly concerning the percentage of heat retained and the effects of friction.

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There is mention of a specific percentage (10%) of heat retention and concerns about the accuracy of the textbook's answer. Participants are also considering the implications of rolling friction and its potential impact on the overall analysis.

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Homework Statement
Calculate the temperature increase of 100 kg of brake material with an average specific heat of 800 J/kg⋅ºC if the material retains 10% of the energy from a 10,000-kg truck descending 75.0 m (in vertical displacement) at a constant speed. (see: https://openstax.org/books/college-physics-ap-courses/pages/14-2-temperature-change-and-heat-capacity)
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Equating the loss of potential energy of the truck to the gain of the internal energy of the brake material seems alright, but is that what is required? What about friction and loss of heat to atmosphere during the descent?
The text gives the answer as 92ºC. The answer is arrived at by doing ##Q=Mgh=mc\Delta T##. But it is unclear to me if they are the same. I checked the coefficient of friction and it definitely seems to be considerable. Is the entire PE lost by the truck going to result in increasing the temperature of the brake material, or is it only 10% of the former (resulting in an answer of 9.2ºC)?
 
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KedarMhaswade said:
What about friction and loss of heat to atmosphere during the descent?

I checked the coefficient of friction and it definitely seems to be considerable.
What friction do you have in mind, other than that which heats the brakes?
KedarMhaswade said:
or is it only 10%
It does seem that the 92C answer overlooks the advice that only 10% of the generated heat is retained.
 
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haruspex said:
What friction do you have in mind, other than that which heats the brakes?
Should we not take into account the rolling friction of the tire on the surface? Agreed, it is negligible perhaps, but it is not zero. Rudimentary calculations show that at a descent of ##75\space m## under gravity on a frictionless surface, a body will be moving at an instantaneous speed of about ##40\space m/sec##. Will the body be moving with the same speed in the presence of rolling friction as well?
haruspex said:
It does seem that the 92C answer overlooks the advice that only 10% of the generated heat is retained.
I thought so too. It does look like 90% of the energy is lost to atmosphere. The funny part is that the book goes on to acknowledge such a high temperature rise by saying "This temperature is close to the boiling point of water. If the truck had been traveling for some time, then ...". This tells me that perhaps the rise is indeed close to the boiling point of water at 1 atm.

Should I submit an errata to OpenStax, or am I to ignore the 10% heat retention information in the problem statement?
 
KedarMhaswade said:
Should we not take into account the rolling friction of the tire on the surface?
Ok, that's what I prefer to call rolling resistance. With the brakes off, how much of a slope would lead a truck to start rolling? Not much, I think.
KedarMhaswade said:
Should I submit an errata to OpenStax
Might as well.
 

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