Calculation of the rise in the temperature of a truck brake

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the calculation of brake temperature rise in a truck, with a stated increase of 92ºC. Participants question whether this figure accurately reflects the energy lost to heat, noting that only about 10% of the generated heat may be retained, while the rest dissipates into the atmosphere. Concerns are raised about the role of rolling friction and its negligible impact on the overall temperature calculation. The conversation suggests that the book's acknowledgment of high temperature near the boiling point of water may indicate a misunderstanding of heat retention. Ultimately, there is a consensus that submitting an errata to OpenStax may be warranted due to these discrepancies.
KedarMhaswade
Messages
35
Reaction score
6
Homework Statement
Calculate the temperature increase of 100 kg of brake material with an average specific heat of 800 J/kg⋅ºC if the material retains 10% of the energy from a 10,000-kg truck descending 75.0 m (in vertical displacement) at a constant speed. (see: https://openstax.org/books/college-physics-ap-courses/pages/14-2-temperature-change-and-heat-capacity)
Relevant Equations
Equating the loss of potential energy of the truck to the gain of the internal energy of the brake material seems alright, but is that what is required? What about friction and loss of heat to atmosphere during the descent?
The text gives the answer as 92ºC. The answer is arrived at by doing ##Q=Mgh=mc\Delta T##. But it is unclear to me if they are the same. I checked the coefficient of friction and it definitely seems to be considerable. Is the entire PE lost by the truck going to result in increasing the temperature of the brake material, or is it only 10% of the former (resulting in an answer of 9.2ºC)?
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
KedarMhaswade said:
What about friction and loss of heat to atmosphere during the descent?

I checked the coefficient of friction and it definitely seems to be considerable.
What friction do you have in mind, other than that which heats the brakes?
KedarMhaswade said:
or is it only 10%
It does seem that the 92C answer overlooks the advice that only 10% of the generated heat is retained.
 
  • Like
Likes KedarMhaswade
haruspex said:
What friction do you have in mind, other than that which heats the brakes?
Should we not take into account the rolling friction of the tire on the surface? Agreed, it is negligible perhaps, but it is not zero. Rudimentary calculations show that at a descent of ##75\space m## under gravity on a frictionless surface, a body will be moving at an instantaneous speed of about ##40\space m/sec##. Will the body be moving with the same speed in the presence of rolling friction as well?
haruspex said:
It does seem that the 92C answer overlooks the advice that only 10% of the generated heat is retained.
I thought so too. It does look like 90% of the energy is lost to atmosphere. The funny part is that the book goes on to acknowledge such a high temperature rise by saying "This temperature is close to the boiling point of water. If the truck had been traveling for some time, then ...". This tells me that perhaps the rise is indeed close to the boiling point of water at 1 atm.

Should I submit an errata to OpenStax, or am I to ignore the 10% heat retention information in the problem statement?
 
KedarMhaswade said:
Should we not take into account the rolling friction of the tire on the surface?
Ok, that's what I prefer to call rolling resistance. With the brakes off, how much of a slope would lead a truck to start rolling? Not much, I think.
KedarMhaswade said:
Should I submit an errata to OpenStax
Might as well.
 
Thread 'Minimum mass of a block'
Here we know that if block B is going to move up or just be at the verge of moving up ##Mg \sin \theta ## will act downwards and maximum static friction will act downwards ## \mu Mg \cos \theta ## Now what im confused by is how will we know " how quickly" block B reaches its maximum static friction value without any numbers, the suggested solution says that when block A is at its maximum extension, then block B will start to move up but with a certain set of values couldn't block A reach...
TL;DR Summary: Find Electric field due to charges between 2 parallel infinite planes using Gauss law at any point Here's the diagram. We have a uniform p (rho) density of charges between 2 infinite planes in the cartesian coordinates system. I used a cube of thickness a that spans from z=-a/2 to z=a/2 as a Gaussian surface, each side of the cube has area A. I know that the field depends only on z since there is translational invariance in x and y directions because the planes are...
Thread 'Calculation of Tensile Forces in Piston-Type Water-Lifting Devices at Elevated Locations'
Figure 1 Overall Structure Diagram Figure 2: Top view of the piston when it is cylindrical A circular opening is created at a height of 5 meters above the water surface. Inside this opening is a sleeve-type piston with a cross-sectional area of 1 square meter. The piston is pulled to the right at a constant speed. The pulling force is(Figure 2): F = ρshg = 1000 × 1 × 5 × 10 = 50,000 N. Figure 3: Modifying the structure to incorporate a fixed internal piston When I modify the piston...
Back
Top