Can LC Oscillations Be Generated Using a DC Source?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of an LC circuit when powered by a DC source. The original poster describes a sequence of events occurring in the circuit involving an inductor, a capacitor, and a battery, and raises questions about the nature of current and charge over time, particularly at the moment the circuit is activated.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the circuit's behavior over time, questioning the validity of their understanding regarding the transition from DC to AC characteristics. They seek clarification on the transient behavior at t=0 and the mathematical expression for this moment.

Discussion Status

Some participants question the initial assumptions made by the original poster, particularly regarding the current at t=0. There is a suggestion to explore the differential equation governing the circuit to better understand the transient response and characteristics of the system.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of transient characteristics in the original poster's analysis and discuss the implications of having both an inductor and capacitor in the circuit, which leads to a second-order differential equation. There is an emphasis on the need for correct equations to describe the system's behavior.

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Homework Statement



Suppose we have a circuit with the inductor, uncharged capacitor, ideal battery with emf E all in series. At t=0, the circuit is switched on. The following takes place sequentially:
1. Current at t=0 is max. Battery charges capacitor, current decreases.
2. inductor senses change in current, sets up back emf, decreasing the rate of current decay from exponential decay to a sinusoidal decay.
3. capacitor gets charged to max i.e. C*E. Current falls to 0.
4. inductor's back emf vanishes as current vanishes.
5. electric field energy tends to transform to magnetic field energy. Thus, capacitor discharges to the inductor.
6. the back emf set by inductor again describes the rate of change of current growth in opposite direction.
7. charge on capacitor falls to 0 and current reaches its max value, this time in opposite.
8. capacitor gets charged again and the whole process gets repeated in opposite direction for the next half cycle and so on.

Homework Equations



from above analysis, current and charge have phase diff of 90. Both sinusoidal functions.
max charge is C*E and max current is (resonant angular frequency)*(max charge).

We can get these by solving the differential equation obtained using KVL.

The Attempt at a Solution



we have an alternating current from a d.c. voltage.
Please see if my analysis is correct! also please point out if i am lacking in finer details...
I didn't know we could get AC from a DC supply.
Also i didnt find any transient characteristics of this circuit? which circuits have transient solutions?
 
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The inductor in the series circuit is not going to allow "Current at t=0 is max". So you've got a problem at step 1.

Have a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLC_circuit" .
 
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yah...
that's right.
So the equations don't hold for t=0?
is that the DC transcience?

what then happens exactly at t=0; how to express this mathematically?
 
saubhik said:
yah...
that's right.
So the equations don't hold for t=0?
is that the DC transcience?

what then happens exactly at t=0; how to express this mathematically?

You just need the right equations. Write out the differential equation for the circuit and solve for the "step response". It's a second order system, characterized by containing two different passive energy storage components (the capacitor and the inductor), so you get a second order differential equation, which means it'll have characteristics like damping factors and resonance. The web page I linked to in my post above has the details.
 

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