Checking the voltage in a light bulb socket

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A user experienced an explosion while checking for voltage in a light bulb socket without a bulb, causing a safety circuit to trip. The likely cause was a short circuit between the Line and Neutral due to improper probe contact. To prevent this, it is recommended to use probes with minimal exposed metal or insulate the probe tips. Measuring voltage at a wall socket is suggested as a safer alternative. The discussion also touched on the type of voltage tester used and the need for proper equipment for safe measurements.
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Hello,

I was trying to check with a voltage tester if there was voltage in a light bulb socket (Edison type, no bulb present). Explosion happened (a relatively loud sound) and the safety circuit switch turned off.

My question is, how can one explain this with the laws of physics and how can one check for voltage in such situation without explosion and turning off safety switch?Nikola
 
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nikolafmf said:
Hello,

I was trying to check with a voltage tester if there was voltage in a light bulb socket (Edison type, no bulb present). Explosion happened (a relatively loud sound) and the safety circuit switch turned off.

My question is, how can one explain this with the laws of physics and how can one check for voltage in such situation without explosion and turning off safety switch?Nikola
Glad you are okay and you just popped the breaker.

You most likely shorted Line and Neutral in the open socket with your voltage probes. The outer screw-shaped conductor is Neutral, and the small button at the bottom of the socket is Line (when the socket is wired correctly). As you reached for the bottom button, you probably made contact with both the button and the outer threads with the metal part of that probe.

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To do this test in a more safe manner, be sure to use probes that only have a very small amount of metal exposed near the end of the probe tip, with the rest covered by insulators.

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nikolafmf said:
Is it very likely that I can physically make contact with both Line and Neutral in the same time with such a probe?
Definitely. To temporarily use that probe until you get better ones, you could insulate most of that exposed metal probe tip with heatshrink tubing or electrical tape. Only leave about 1mm of the conductor tip exposed.

Oh, and please be careful. Why are you wanting to make this measurement? Measuring the voltage at the wall socket is a bit safer, as long as you are careful not to touch any metal with your hands or body when you are making the measurement.
 
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nikolafmf said:
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/6f...jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF
BTW, that looks like a small screwdriver to me. Where does the wire attach?
 
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berkeman said:
Definitely. To temporarily use that probe until you get better ones, you could insulate most of that exposed metal probe tip with heatshrink tubing or electrical tape. Only leave about 1mm of the conductor tip exposed.

Oh, and please be careful. Why are you wanting to make this measurement? Measuring the voltage at the wall socket is a bit safer, as long as you are careful not to touch any metal with your hands or body when you are making the measurement.
OK, thank you very much.
 
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BTW, that looks like a small screwdriver to me. Where does the wire attach?

Which wire?
 
Btw, can you, or somebody else, suggest me some popular or semi-popular book (first year undergraduate university textbook also acceptable) which explains those things?
 
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berkeman said:
BTW, that looks like a small screwdriver to me. Where does the wire attach?
It's a Neon Circuit Checker.
 
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