Conservation of energy, Rolling without slipping.

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A bowling ball rolls without slipping up an inclined plane, reaching a height h before stopping. The total kinetic energy, combining translational and rotational components, is equated to gravitational potential energy to find h. The calculations show that h equals 0.29 m, derived from the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy. The discussion highlights the importance of choosing a reference point for potential energy, which can simplify the problem. Ultimately, the correct height is confirmed as 0.29 m, clarifying the student's understanding of energy conservation in this context.
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Homework Statement



A bowling ball is rolling without slipping up an inclined plane. As it passes a point O it has a speed of 2.00 m/s up the plane. It reaches a vertical height h above O before momentarily stopping and rolling back down. Determine the value of h. The moment of inertia of a solid sphere of mass M and radius R is I = \frac{2MR^2}{5}

Homework Equations



Translational kinetic energy \frac{mv^2}{2}
Rotational kinetic energy \frac {I\omega^2}{2}
Rolling without slipping v = r\omega
Gravitational potential energy U = mgy
Constant acceleration formulae maybe?

The Attempt at a Solution



Equating Total (rotational and translational) kinetic energy and potential energy \frac{Mv^2}{2} + \frac {I\omega^2}{2} = Mgy as all the energy has been converted from kinetic to potential when the ball stops (i.e. at the height we're trying to find)

Inserting the expression for moment of inertia the rotational kinetic energy is \frac{MR^2\omega^2}{5} but for rolling without slipping this is just \frac{Mv^2}{5} so total kinetic energy becomes T = \frac{Mv^2}{2} + \frac{Mv^2}{5} = \frac {7Mv^2}{10}

So \frac{7Mv^2}{10} = Mgy and we can cancel the Ms to get \frac {7v^2}{10} = gy

At some value of y (lets call it d), v = 2.00 m/s so plugging in the numbers d = \frac{7v^2}{10g} = 0.29m

Then I'm not sure what to do next. I was thinking we've got an initial velocity (2 m/s), a final velocity (0 m/s), an acceleration (g), and we want the vertical displacement, h, from O to give a final velocity of 0 m/s so we can then apply constant acceleration equation v^2 = u^2 + 2gh, with v = 2, u = 0 and solving this gives h = \frac{v^2}{2g} but this comes to h = 0.20m, the quoted answer is h = 0.29 m.
 
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You got the correct result, h=0.29 m, only you did not notice.

You can take the potential equal to zero at any point, here a good choice is at point O.

At point O the ball has vo=2m/s velocity and it rolls upward. You calculated the KE with this velocity, correctly. This KE transforms to potential energy h height above O, where the potential energy with respect to O, is mgh. As you wrote,

<br /> d = \frac{7v^2}{10g} =0.29 m<br />

But d is the height h which was the question. You got it!

ehild
 
ehild said:
You got the correct result, h=0.29 m, only you did not notice.

You can take the potential equal to zero at any point, here a good choice is at point O.

At point O the ball has vo=2m/s velocity and it rolls upward. You calculated the KE with this velocity, correctly. This KE transforms to potential energy h height above O, where the potential energy with respect to O, is mgh. As you wrote,

<br /> d = \frac{7v^2}{10g} =0.29 m<br />

But d is the height h which was the question. You got it!

ehild

Ah cool, I did spot that I got the right number when I was working it out, but wasnt sure why - turns out I'd completely forgotten that I can choose where the potential is zero. Thanks :)
 
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