Electric field in the center of an arc

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To find the electric field at the center of a uniformly charged arc of radius R and amplitude 2A, the charge density is defined as λ = Q/L, where L = 2A. The electric field expression is derived using the integral E(P) = ∫ K_e (λL/R^2) dL, leading to E(P) = 2A K_e λ / R^2 after integration. However, simplifying the equation in terms of Q and π results in E(P) = Q/4πε_0 R^2, which raises concerns about potential oversimplification. The discussion emphasizes the need to integrate vector components due to the nature of electric fields, particularly noting that contributions from opposite ends of the arc may cancel out. A coordinate system is recommended for clearer integration of the electric field components.
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Homework Statement



Consider a conductor wire with a charge Q uniformly distributed, shaped in the form of an arc of radius R and amplitude 2A (were A is a given number between 0 and π).

Find the value of the electric field in the center of the arc.

Homework Equations



##E(P)= \int K_e (dq/r^2)##

Where ##K_e## is the electrostatic constant[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


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Since the charge is uniformly distributed I'm considering the charge density as λ= Q/L thus Q= λL, where L = 2A. The point P is the center of the arc.

So the integral becomes

##E(P)= \int K_e (λL/R^2)##

Getting out the constants, integrating on dL and selecting the limits 0 - L=2A

##E(P)= K_e λ/R^2 \int_0^L LdL##

And solving:

##E(P)= 2A K_e λ / R^2##

However, if I leave it in terms of Q and Pi, the expression oversimplifies and the term 2A goes away

##E(P)= 2A Q / 4πε_0 R^2 2A ## ## =Q/4πε_0 R^2##

So I got the serious feeling I'm getting something wrong here. Perhaps integrate in terms of the angle?

Any advise would be appreciated


 
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SetepenSeth said:
where L = 2A
What about R?
SetepenSeth said:
So the integral becomes
##E(P)= \int K_e (λL/R^2)##
E is a vector. You need to integrate it as such. An integral is a sum. How do you add vectors?
 
I think I'll start from scratch cause I don't follow
 
SetepenSeth said:
I think I'll start from scratch cause I don't follow
For example, consider the case where the arc goes through 180 degrees. The field at the centre from the charge at one end of the arc is equal and opposite to that from the charge at the other end of the arc, so those cancel.
Choose a coordinate system and write the field as components in that system. You can then integrate each component separately.
 
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