Electric field inside a uniformly polarized cylinder

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field inside a uniformly polarized cylinder using Gauss' law. The electric field is derived as \(\vec{E} = \frac{\vec{P}}{2\varepsilon_0}\), where \(\vec{P}\) is the polarization vector. A key point of contention arises regarding the definition of the vector \(\vec{d}\), which represents the displacement between the positive and negative charges. The correct interpretation is that \(\vec{s_-} = \vec{s_+} + \vec{d}\), clarifying the relationship between the vectors involved in the calculation.

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Homework Statement


This is problem 4.13 from Griffiths. A long cylinder of radius a carries a uniform polarization P perpendicular to its axis. Find the electric field inside the cylinder.

Homework Equations


##\int \vec{E}\cdot dA = q_{encl}/\varepsilon_0##

The Attempt at a Solution


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We solve the problem by using a positive and negatively polarized cylinder:
Using Gauss' law we find

$$ \vec{E}(2\pi \vec{s} l) = \frac{\rho \pi \vec{s}^2 l}{\varepsilon_0} \\ \Rightarrow \vec{E} = \frac{\rho}{2\varepsilon_0}\vec{s}$$

then
$$\vec{E_+} = \frac{\rho}{2\varepsilon_0}\vec{s_+} \\ \vec{E_-} = -\frac{\rho}{2\varepsilon_0}\vec{s_-}$$

Summing together gives

$$\vec{E} = \frac{\rho}{2\varepsilon_0}\left(\vec{s_+} - \vec{s_-} \right)$$

and since for dipoles we define the vector ##\vec{d}## going from the negative to the positive charge ##\vec{d} = s_+ - s_-##

$$\vec{E} = \frac{\rho \vec{d}}{2\varepsilon_0} = \frac{\vec{P}}{2\varepsilon_0}$$

However, in the solutions manual they claim ##\vec{d}## is going from the negative to the positive axis and that ##\vec{s_+}-\vec{s_-} = -\vec{d}## which I am having a hard time believing as from a simple diagram this seems incorrect.

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I can't draw a diagram, but I think I can describe the picture: Assume the + cylinder is translated to the right by a vector ## \vec{d} ##. (The cross-sectional view involves two circles of radius ## a ## in the x-y plane, with the + circle a distance ## d ## to the right of the - circle). Then, at a given location ## \vec{r} ## where the electric field is being determined, e.g. upward and to the right of the origin, ## \vec{s_-} ## will be the longer vector in reaching the location ## \vec{r} ##. We can write ## \vec{s_-}=\vec{s_+}+\vec{d} ##.
 
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Charles Link said:
I can't draw a diagram, but I think I can describe the picture: Assume the + cylinder is translated to the right by a vector ## \vec{d} ##. (The cross-sectional view involves two circles of radius ## a ## in the x-y plane, with the + circle a distance ## d ## to the right of the - circle). Then, at a given location ## \vec{r} ## where the electric field is being determined, e.g. upward and to the right of the origin, ## \vec{s_-} ## will be the longer vector in reaching the location ## \vec{r} ##. We can write ## \vec{s_-}=\vec{s_+}+\vec{d} ##.

Am I drawing it incorrectly? I still don't find the same result as you.
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Am I drawing it incorrectly? I still don't find the same result as you.
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Your drawing is incorrect. ## d ## is a shift of the origins of two circles, each of radius ## a ##, along the x-axis. A point ## \vec{r} ## is common to both of them. ## \vec{s}_+ ## is a vector from the rightmost origin to ## \vec{r} ##, and ##\vec{s}_- ## is a vector from the leftmost origin to ## \vec{r} ##.
 
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