Electric Field, Potential Between 3 Charged Electrodes

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field and potential difference between three charged electrodes, with a focus on the relationship between electric field strength and voltage. Participants are examining the discrepancies between their calculations and the values provided in the answer key.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods for calculating the electric field, including treating the electrodes as capacitors and considering the charge distribution. Questions arise regarding the validity of adding charge densities (sigma) from different electrodes and the implications of differing charge values on the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the order of magnitude in the answer key and exploring various interpretations of the problem setup. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or values.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential confusion regarding units of measurement (centimeters vs. millimeters) and the assumptions made about the configuration of the electrodes. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of using different charge values for the electrodes.

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Homework Statement



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The book also asks for E versus x.


Homework Equations



dV/dx=-E
E=sigma/epsilon0

The Attempt at a Solution



This question seemed fairly straightforward: I assumed it could be treated like two +-50 nC capacitors, each with d=1 cm. According to my calculations, (from x=2 cm to x=3 cm for example) E would be 1.4 x 10^7 V/m, and V would be -Es=-1.4 x 10^5 V. The answer key says that E=+- 1.4 x 10^8 V/m, and that V= 140,000 V... I can't figure out how they got E to be 10^8, and if so, what it could have been multiplied by to get 1.4 x 10^5.

I googled it and found someone give an alternate solution in which he/she calculated separate sigma for the three electrodes (50 nC=Q for the first, 100 nC=Q for the second), and then added them and divided by epsilon0 to get the electric field...I didn't know you could do this; is it still a capacitor then, if the charges are different on either plate..? In any case, this answer was still nothing near the book's, off by a factor of 10^5 or something.

Thanks
 
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Looking at the answer key values, if E = 1.4 x 108 V/m and the separation between plates is 1cm, then that would make the potential difference between plates 1.4 x 106 V, which doesn't match their given voltage value. So perhaps they've mucked up the order of magnitude on the field strength.

If you do treat an adjacent pair of plates as a capacitor, then the plate area is (2cm)2 and separation 1cm, giving a capacitance of 0.354 pF. With a charge of 50nc, that yields a voltage of 1.41 x 105V, which does match their given voltage.
 
Never mind!
 
Thanks gneill,

So 1.4 x 10^5 V would make 1.4 x 10^7 V/m correct?

Does it make sense to add values of sigma to find the electric field, as was done in the Cramster problem I found online?
 
Maybe they used millimeters instead of centimeters for the distance between the plates.
 
Bogus_Roads said:
Thanks gneill,

So 1.4 x 10^5 V would make 1.4 x 10^7 V/m correct?

That's what I'd get.

Does it make sense to add values of sigma to find the electric field, as was done in the Cramster problem I found online?

I couldn't say. I didn't look at it.
 

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