Electric potential of a plastic rod

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The problem involves calculating the electric potential due to a charged plastic rod bent into a circular shape. The rod has a specific charge distribution, with a positive charge uniformly distributed over one-quarter of its circumference and a negative charge distributed over the remaining part. The inquiry focuses on determining the electric potential at the center of the circle and at a point along the central axis.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of the formula V = kq/r and the need to integrate this expression, questioning how to relate it to the geometry of the circular charge distribution.
  • There is a focus on defining the linear charge density λ and how to express dq in terms of λ and ds, with specific limits for integration based on the charge distribution.
  • Some participants suggest evaluating the integral directly, noting that constants simplify the process.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the integration process and the simplification of constants, but no consensus on a single method has been reached yet.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of the charge distribution and the geometry of the problem, with some uncertainty regarding the definitions and limits for integration. The original poster has referenced textbook answers but is seeking to understand the underlying calculations.

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A plastic rod has been bent into a circle of radius R=8.20cm. It has a charge Q1 = +4.20pC uniformly distributed along one-quarter of its circumference and a charge Q2 = -6Q1 uniformly distributed along the rest of circumference. With V=0 at infinity, what is the electric potential a) at the center of the circle and b) at point P, which is on the central axis of the central axis of the circle at distance D = 6.71cm from the center?

In the problem, I tried to evaluate V = kq/r to solve this problem. I think that r and k, which is 8.99*10^9, is constant in this problem. I would like to know to integrate this equation and to make it relate with 2Pi*r


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Answer from textbook: a) = -2.3V and b) = -1.78V. I want to find out the solution.
 
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You need to evaluate ∫k/r dq. Note that r and k are both constants, so the integral should be easy.
 
Now the problem is what is ramda, so I can change dq to ramda*ds. After that, I will be able to evaluate from 0 to 0.13 for 1/4 of circumference for q1 and evaluate from 0.13 to 0.515 for the rest of circumference for q2.
 
You can certainly solve the problem by finding the linear charge density λ, and then evaluating ∫(kλ)/r ds . λ is just the total charge divided by the length.

But that's the hard way. Since k, λ, and r are constant, you'd just end up evaluating ∫ds which should be trivial. The easy way is to recognize that ∫dq = Q, which is given.

But go ahead and do it either way.
 

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