How Much Energy to Position Four Charges at Square Corners?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the energy required to position four positive charges of +5.0 mC at the corners of a square with a side length of 2.5 cm. The initial approach involves using the formula for electric potential, V = kQ/r, leading to a net potential of 7.2 x 10^9 V. However, the conversation shifts to the need for potential energy calculations, U = kQ^2/r, considering the interactions between the charges. The final energy calculated for bringing the charges from infinity is 4.9 x 10^7 J. The assembly of charges and the calculation of potential at each vertex are also discussed, emphasizing the importance of summing individual potentials.
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I'm not sure that I really understand this question:

How much energy is needed to place four positive charges, each of magnitude +5.0mC, at the vertices of a square of side 2.5cm?


what I was thinking is that V = kQ/r

And since all the charges are equal, and the same distance apart V1=V2=V3=V4 = (9x10^9)(5x10^-3C)/2.5x10^-2m = 1.8x10^9V

Vnet = V1 +V2 + V3 + V4 = 7.2x10^9V

However I haven't taken into account the diaganols - do I need to?
 
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What you want to add is potential energy, not potential. The energy needed to bring two identical charges from infinity to a distance r apart is:
U = kQ^2/r

Hint: Imagine the four charges being brought from infinity, one at a time.
 
Ok I think I got it I added the potenial energy between each of the 6 charge sets and got 4.9x10^7J, hopefully that sounds about right.
I think I was getting things confused with the second part of the question:

Choose one way of assembling the charges and calculate the potential at each empty vertex as this set of charges is assembled. Clearly descrive the order of assembly.

Would I be correct to use V =kQ/r for this part of the question?
 
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flower76 said:
Would I be correct to use V =kQ/r for this part of the question?

Yes, you should sum all of the individual potentials, for example;

V_{total} = \frac{kQ_{1}}{r_{1}} + ... + \frac{kQ_{n}}{r_{n}}

Where rn is the distance from the charge Qn to the empty vertex.

~H
 
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