Force Exerted by Shot-Putter: Solving the Puzzle

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The average force exerted by a shot-putter on a 7.0-kilogram shot, moved through a distance of 2.8 meters and released with a speed of 13 m/s, is a key focus of this discussion. Participants utilized fundamental physics equations, including F=ma and kinematic equations, to derive the force. Despite attempts to calculate the force, estimates varied, with one participant suggesting a value around 200 Newtons while another calculated approximately 400 Newtons. The discrepancies highlight the importance of accurately applying physics principles in problem-solving.

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1. What is the average force exerted by a shot-putter on a 7.0 kilogram shot if the shot is moved through a distance of 2.8 meters and is released with a speed of 13 m/s?



2. F=ma, x = vo t + 1/2 at^2, v=vo at



3. I think you get time by using D = vt, but when I use this time and plug it into the distance equation above I get a weird answer. The real answer should be in the ballpark of 200 Newtons.
 
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ok I'm not sure how much calculus you know but the chain rule allows you to write:
F=ma=m\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=m\frac{dv}{dx}v
this means the F =mv*(change in velocity)/(change in position)


However this gives me about 400 N so I might be forgetting something.
 
Heimisson said:
ok I'm not sure how much calculus you know but the chain rule allows you to write:
F=ma=m\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=m\frac{dv}{dx}v
this means the F =mv*(change in velocity)/(change in position)


However this gives me about 400 N so I might be forgetting something.

Thanks for the response

But I'm in an introductory physics course; calculus is a bit too much for me.

I'll play around with the numbers some more.

The problem seems really easy... I just can't get the right answer.
 

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