GRADE 12: Energy, Springs and maybe momentum/collisions?

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The discussion focuses on deriving equations to calculate the distance a spring should be pulled back in a projectile motion scenario involving energy conservation. Key concepts include the use of kinetic energy, potential energy, and spring energy equations, along with the need for 2D trajectory equations due to the initial and final heights being different. Participants emphasize the importance of incorporating both energy conservation and trajectory analysis in the calculations. There is a mention of the SUVAT equations for constant acceleration as a potential resource for solving the problem. The conversation highlights the challenge of solving the problem without a provided velocity.
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A spring of mass “m” is put on a launcher elevated at “θ” degrees above the horizontal. It is pull back a distance “x” and launched at a target that must travel vertically “dy“ and a horizontal distance of “dx”. The spring has a constant of “k”.Derive an equation (or series of equations) given m, θ, dy ,dx, k so you can calculate a value of x.Example The target is 3.5 m away and the launder is elevated at 30o and it is 1.2 m high, the mass of the spring is 4.5 g, what distance should the spring be pulled back to land in a target that is 0.40 m tall if k = 18 N/m?

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PTi= PTf
Ei=Ef
ENERGY
KINETIC (Ek)
Ek=1/2 MV^2
SPRINGS(elastic Ee)
Ee=1/2 KX^2
E1=E2 IE
Potential (Eg)
Eg= mgh or mg(delta y)
vx= vicos (theta)
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Check your textbook for 1) 2D trajectory equations and 2) the conservation of mechanical energy. You will need both.
 
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Check your textbook for 1) 2D trajectory equations and 2) the conservation of mechanical energy. You will need both.
ENERGY
KINETIC (Ek)
1/2 MV^2
SPRINGS(elastic Ee)
1/2 KX^2
E1=E2 IE
Potential (Eg)
mgh or mg(delta y)
vx= vicos (theta)
 
The classical range equation is based on the initial elevation and the final elevation both being on the ground. In your problem you have an initial height as well as a final height which means you need to carry them along in your trajectory analysis.
 
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thanks for that tip, but how do i slove this when v is not provided.
 
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