Heat expansions using simultaneous equations.

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The discussion revolves around a thermal expansion problem involving a steel ball and a brass surface. The original poster is attempting to determine the temperature required for the ball to fit through a hole in the brass surface, given their initial dimensions and coefficients of thermal expansion.

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  • Participants suggest setting up two equations based on the thermal expansion formula, with the goal of finding a temperature that allows the ball to pass through the hole. There is discussion about the correct setup of these equations and the relationship between the expansions of the ball and the hole.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to structure the equations for thermal expansion. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and seeks further clarification on solving for the temperature.

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The original poster mentions struggling with mathematical concepts and expresses a desire for more detailed assistance. There is an implication of confusion regarding the setup and solution process for the equations involved.

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Hi all, this isn't homework, just doing a bit of revision and I've come to a question I'm stuck on. Thanks for any help!

Homework Statement



A steel ball is resting on a hole in a brass surface, at 15 degrees celsius. The bearing has a diameter of 30mm, and the hole has a diameter at 29.994mm. What temperature do you have to heat both the ball and surface up to, in order for the ball to hit through the hole? The temperature will be the same for both the bearing and the hole.

a for brass = 1.9x10^-5
a for steel = 1.1x10^-5

Homework Equations


(Sorry, I haven't worked out how to use the proper method for inputting equations)
(change in)L = a.L(initial).(change in)T

The Attempt at a Solution



(change in)L = 3.3x10^-4.(change in)T for the bearing
(change in)L = 5.6x10^-4.(change in)T for the brass


I have no clue how to set up the equations from here. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
 
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First of all help yourself to a Δ.

(And use it well.)

ΔL = a *L * ΔT

So set up 2 equations. One for ΔL1 and the other for ΔL2 in which you know ultimately that you want ΔL2 = ΔL1 + .006

Then solve for ΔT.
 
Well, you what you need is:
L_{B0}+ \Delta L_{B} < L_{R0} +\Delta L_{R}
All that should be necessary is to substitute in the expression for thermal expansion. Where the B values are for the steel ball, and the R for the brass ring/surface
 
LowlyPion said:
First of all help yourself to a Δ.

(And use it well.)

ΔL = a *L * ΔT

So set up 2 equations. One for ΔL1 and the other for ΔL2 in which you know ultimately that you want ΔL2 = ΔL1 + .006

Then solve for ΔT.

I shall treasure it for the rest of my life!

And sorry to ask for even more details, I'm just useless with maths at the moment. So, if I set up my two equations, it should look like:

ΔL1 = 1.1x10^-5 *30 * ΔT (I assume you can keep the units in mm here)
ΔL2 = 1.9x10^-5 *29.994 * ΔT

How do you go about getting about solving for ΔT? I tried setting the ΔL2 equation to the ΔL1 equation plus .006, but when I solved for ΔT I got 8.25x10^-3, which is horribly wrong.
 

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