High School Physics: Doppler Effect

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving the Doppler Effect, where an automobile approaches at 60 km/h, producing a perceived frequency of 388 Hz while the actual frequency is 369 Hz. The main challenge is rearranging the Doppler frequency formula to solve for the speed of sound, as the formula contains two variables for the speed of sound. A participant points out a mistake in the formula's notation and provides the correct version, which helps clarify the problem. Another user suggests multiplying both sides of the corrected equation to simplify the solution process. Ultimately, the advice leads to successfully finding the correct answer.
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Homework Statement




An automobile is approaching you at a speed of 60.0 km/h and sounding its horn. The fundamental frequency of the horn sounds to you like 388 Hz. If the real fundamental frequency of the horn is 369 Hz, what is the speed of sound?


Homework Equations



Doppler Frequency = (speed of sound / (speed of sound - speed of source)) source frequency

fd = (vw/ vw - vs) fs

The Attempt at a Solution



What I'm having trouble with is rearranging the formula to solve for the speed of sound. Because there is two 'speed of sound' variables, you either end up dividing one by the other, and eliminating all variables; or subtracting one from the other, and (once again) eliminating all variables. As far as I can see, it's not possible?

Could someone help me out with rearranging this formula properly?

In case anyone's wondering, it's Grade 11 Physics.
 
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You have the formula written down wrong.

You wrote:

fd = (vw/ vw - vs) fs

It's supposed to be:

fd = (vw / (vw - vs)) fs

Good luck!
 
Try multiply both sides of the equation (when its written up correctly as Tusike noted) with vw-vs. The resulting equation should now be easier to solve for vw.
 
Thanks alot! I got the correct answer, thanks to both of those pieces of advice.
 
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