How to Find Maximum Compression of a Spring on a Ramp?

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To find the maximum compression of a spring on a frictionless ramp, the potential energy (PE) of the block must equal the elastic potential energy stored in the spring. The relevant equations include PE = mgh and PE = 1/2 kx^2, where m is mass, g is gravity, h is height, k is the spring constant, and x is the compression. The user attempted to solve the quadratic equation derived from setting these energies equal but received incorrect results. Clarification on what "maximum compression" means and the role of "x" in the equations was requested, indicating confusion about the problem setup. Understanding these concepts is crucial for correctly solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


A 5 kg block is placed near the top of a frictionless ramp, which makes an angle of 30o degrees to the horizontal. A distance d = 1.3 m away from the block is an unstretched spring with k = 3000 N/m. The block slides down the ramp and compresses the spring. Find the magnitude of the maximum compression of the spring.



Homework Equations


quadratic equation ax+bx-c
h=d+xsintheta
PE=mgh=mg(d+x)sintheta
PE=1/2kx

mg(d+x)sintheta=1/2kx
0=1/2kx+-mg sintheta +-mgd sintheta
ax+bx-c


The Attempt at a Solution



What i did was plug in the numbers into the quadratic equation and i thought that is all that i had to do.. and the answer is still not correct. if someone could please help me out that would be appreciative =)
 
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Your formula for PE is wrong. PE=1/2kx2.
You have to solve your quadratic equation of form ax2+bx+c=0.

ehild
 
I just tried figuring it out once again..

a=1500
b=48.463
c= 63.002


so then i used the quad equation to solve for X


x= -b +- squareroot b2-4ac / 2a

and x comes out to either be

x= .0506461
x= -.0829547

then i put it back into the equation
PE=.5(k)(x)

and i tried both.. one i got around 3 and the other i got around 10

what else am i doing wrong that i can't figure this out?
 
What does it mean "maximum compression of the spring"? And what is "x" for?

ehild
 
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