Impedance of a 5kW generator (synchronous single phase)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the impedance of a 5kW synchronous single-phase generator with 4 salient poles, particularly in the context of calculating short circuit currents for a hydro turbine project in Peru. Participants seek to estimate the generator's impedance and copper losses for proper grid design and protection switch calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Jonathan Stevens, a student, requests assistance in estimating the impedance of a 5kW synchronous generator, noting the importance of this data for calculating short circuit currents.
  • One participant suggests using a Google search for "typical data salient pole" to find relevant information.
  • Jonathan later reports finding per unit values on a specific website, indicating that his earlier search efforts were unproductive due to using a different search engine.
  • Another participant agrees with Jonathan's experience, emphasizing that different search engines can yield varying results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of searching multiple sources for information, but the specific impedance values remain unresolved as no consensus or definitive data has been established in the thread.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific impedance values or detailed calculations, and the reliance on external websites for information introduces uncertainty regarding the accuracy and applicability of the found data.

Jonathan Stevens
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Hi everyone!

As a Belgian student electrical engineering, I am going to Peru this summer with Humasol vzw, a development organisation that works with engineering students. Our job is to build a hydro turbine next to a small river to provide a little community with electricity. Also part of our project is to design and build the grid, and do the calculations here already in Belgium. But in the calculations of the short circuit currents, to decide the protection switches, we noticed we miss some important data.

We are working with a synchronous single phase generator of 5kW with 4 salient poles but we don't know the impedance of it. So we don't know how big a short circuit current will be when a fault occurs. After half a day of searching on the web, no useful data was found.

Could somebody help us out here by giving an estimation of the impedance of such a generator? Or if you might have an idea of its copper losses?

It would really help us out!
Thanks in advance,
Jonathan Stevens
 
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Welcome to PF.

I did a Google search on "typical data salient pole". That gave me numerous links that could provide the answer you need.

Good luck
 
Thanks a lot! I did indeed find the per unit values on this website: http://nl.mathworks.com/help/physmod/sps/ref/synchronousmachinesalientpolestandard.html
I did not find it earlier because I was working with an other search engine. New lesson I learned: always try several search engines! :)
 
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Jonathan Stevens said:
Thanks a lot! I did indeed find the per unit values on this website: http://nl.mathworks.com/help/physmod/sps/ref/synchronousmachinesalientpolestandard.html
I did not find it earlier because I was working with an other search engine. New lesson I learned: always try several search engines! :)

Welcome.

This is good stuff! It took me a while to figure out not all search engines return the same information. It's a good thing to know.

Good luck and take care.
 

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