Mechanics -- Converting volumetric flow rate to nozzle velocity

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The problem involves calculating the velocity of water exiting a nozzle and the forces exerted on a wall by the water stream under different conditions. The context is fluid mechanics, specifically focusing on volumetric flow rate and its relation to velocity and force.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between volumetric flow rate and velocity, with attempts to derive velocity from given parameters. There are questions about unit consistency and the correct application of mechanics equations.

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The discussion includes various attempts to calculate velocity and force, with some participants providing insights into the necessary equations and unit checks. There is a mix of confirmations and clarifications regarding the calculations presented, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Homework Statement


A hose with a nozzle 80 mm in diameter ejects a horizontal stream of water at a reate of 0.044 m3 s-1. With what velocity will the water leave the nozzle? What will be the force exerted on a vertical wall situated close to the nozzle and at right-angles to the stream of water, if, after hitting the wall, (a) the water falls vertically to the ground, (b) the water rebounds horizontally? (g = 10 m s -2, density of water = 1000 kg m -3)

Answers: velocity = 8.75 m s-1, (a) 385 N, (b) 770 N.

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Mechanics equations.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to get velocity with: V*0.08 m = 0.044 m3 s-1 but got only 0.55. I did try some other various calculations using the given diameter and the rate of ejection but do not think that they are of any value. Really lost on finding velocity.

For a and b:
(a) 0.044 ms * 1000 kgm = 44 kg is being ejected in one second.
44 kg * 8.75 ms (velocity from the answer) = 385 N
(b) I suppose that if the force is so strong that water rebounds backwards, the force should be twice as much = 385 N * 2 = 770 N. The answer fits the book answer, but I am not sure whether my logic is correct.

So in sum: any help with finding velocity? Really lost. And logic for part b is correct? Or I should have calculated it in an other way?
 
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moenste said:
I tried to get velocity with: V*0.08 m = 0.044 m3 s-1 but got only 0.55.
Check your units. The left side should not be speed times diameter, but speed times what?
 
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For part (b) your intuition is correct. You can give it a solid base by realizing that ##F = {\Delta p\over \Delta t}##
 
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Doc Al said:
Check your units. The left side should not be speed times diameter, but speed times what?
In a similar problem from the book the author multiplies 2 ms-1 = 2 m and a cross-sectional area of 0.03 m2, so 2 m * 0.03 m2 = 0.06 m3 --- volume of water leaving the pipe in 1 second.

In my case if I take the book answer of 8.75 ms-1 = 8.75 m then: 8.75 m * X = 0.044 m3s-1. X = 5 * 10-3 m2. I googled cross-sectional area and got this video:

So:
80 mm diameter = 80 m / 2 = 40 mm radius.
40 mm / 1000 = 0.04 m.
A = πr2
A = π*0.042 = 5.0265...*10-3 m2

So finding v:
v * 5.0265...*10-3 m2 = 0.044 m3
v = 8.75 ms-1

Correct?
 
moenste said:
So:
80 mm diameter = 80 m / 2 = 40 mm radius.
40 mm / 1000 = 0.04 m.
A = πr2
A = π*0.042 = 5.0265...*10-3 m2

So finding v:
v * 5.0265...*10-3 m2 = 0.044 m3
v = 8.75 ms-1

Correct?
Perfect!
 
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How did you get the force for part a)? You only had the mass and velocity
 
R4YY4N said:
How did you get the force for part a)? You only had the mass and velocity
Consider the change in momentum of the water.
 

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