Microstates and multi-dimensional oscillators

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The discussion revolves around calculating microstates for a system of 9 one-dimensional oscillators with 5 quanta of vibrational energy, resulting in 1287 microstates. Participants seek clarification on how to determine the expected number of objects in a specific microstate (000000005) when examining a collection of 30,000 objects. One contributor explains that the ratio of the number of quanta to the total microstates can be used to estimate the expected count in that microstate. The calculation involves dividing the total number of objects by the number of microstates to find the expected number of objects in any given microstate. This method provides a straightforward approach to solving similar problems in statistical mechanics.
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Consider an object containing 9 one-dimensional oscillators (this object could represent a model of 3 atoms in an Einstein solid). There are 5 quanta of vibrational energy in the object.

(a) How many microstates are there, all with the same energy?

1287 microstates

(b) If you examined a collection of 30000 objects of this kind, each containing 5 quanta of energy, about how many of these objects would you expect to find in the microstate 000000005?


I got part (a) but I don't know exactly what question 4 is asking? Thanks for the help.
 
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Im trying to work out a similar problem to this one. Does anyone know how to go about solving part B? I'm not sure how one would start the problem. I tried determing the probabilities of 5-0, 0-5, 4-1, 1-4, 3-2, and 2-3, and then used the ration of 0-5 to the sum, but that produced an incorrect answer.
 


I also have a similar problem on WEBASSIGN. My friend got part B, but he never told me HOW, but here is his problem and answer.

Consider an object containing 9 one-dimensional oscillators (this object could represent a model of 3 atoms in an Einstein solid). There are 5 quanta of vibrational energy in the object.
How many microstates are there, all with the same energy?
HIS ANSWER: 1287

If you examined a collection of 44000 objects of this kind, each containing 5 quanta of energy, about how many of these objects would you expect to find in the microstate 000000005?
HIS ANSWER: 34.188034
 


I kinda know how he get it
but with no explanation, so don't ask me
5/1287= x/44000
5*44000/1287 = 170.9401
170.9401/5=34.188034
 


A better way is 44000/1287, that gives the number of objects.
 
Here's the reason that works...

000000005 is just one of the 1287 microstates. Therefore, the number of objects divided by the number of microstates gives you the number of objects that are in anyone given microstate.
 
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