Newton's Law Problem: Calculating Acceleration on an Inclined Plane

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The problem involves calculating the acceleration of two blocks connected by a rope over a pulley, with one block on a frictionless inclined plane. The blocks have different masses and the incline is at a specified angle. The discussion centers around the application of Newton's laws and the forces acting on the blocks.

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  • Participants discuss how to calculate the gravitational forces acting on each block and the resulting acceleration. There are questions about the correct application of formulas and the derivation of the acceleration equation.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the correct formula to use and have pointed out potential errors in the calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to derive the acceleration formula from the forces acting on the blocks.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment and are preparing for an upcoming test. There is a focus on understanding the principles rather than just applying formulas.

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Homework Statement


A block of mass m1=2.0 kg on a frictionless inclined plane of angle 20 degrees is connected by a rope over a pulley to another block of mass m2=1.0kg. What are the magnitude and direction of the acceleration of the second block?

Homework Equations


a=m2g-m1gsin(angle)/ma1+m2


The Attempt at a Solution



how would i calculate m1g and m2g in the first place?
other then that...

a=m2g-m1gsin20/2+1



Your help will beeee very appreciated seeing as I have a test on it tom!
 
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g is acceleration due to gravity = 9.81 m/s2
 
so basically i would multiply mass with 9.81
m2 = 1(9.81) = 9.81
m1= 2(9.81) = 19.62

a= -19.62-(-9.81)sin20/3
a= 3.3m/s^2 (down)

but the answer is supposed to be -1.03 m/s^2 (down)
 
Smile101 said:
so basically i would multiply mass with 9.81
m2 = 1(9.81) = 9.81
m1= 2(9.81) = 19.62

a= -19.62-(-9.81)sin20/3
a= 3.3m/s^2 (down)

but the answer is supposed to be -1.03 m/s^2 (down)


Well for one, it seems that you switched around m1g and m2g. It should be

a=\frac{9.81-(19.62)sin20}{3}


Also, do you know how to get that formula?

a=\frac{m_2g-m_1gsin\theta}{m_1+m_2}
 
rock.freak667 said:
Well for one, it seems that you switched around m1g and m2g. It should be

a=\frac{9.81-(19.62)sin20}{3}


Also, do you know how to get that formula?

a=\frac{m_2g-m_1gsin\theta}{m_1+m_2}


No i don't! But the modified version you gave me is right! I got 1.03! :) thank you soo much :cool:
 
Smile101 said:
No i don't! But the modified version you gave me is right! I got 1.03! :) thank you soo much :cool:

If the resultant force of m2 is downwards, then for the system vertically. (T=Tension)

m2a=m2g-T

therefore on the incline, m1 moves up, so that

m1a=T-m1gsin\theta


two equations where you can eliminate T by adding them. That is how to derive that formula. It's better to know how to do these kinds of of problems from first principles than to memorize a formula
 

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