Non-dimensionalization - Given heat balance EQ, convert to a dimensionless EQ

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Homework Statement



Define a dimensionless radial coordinate as

[tex]x\,=\,r\,\sqrt{\frac{2\,h}{b\,k}}[/tex]

and introduce [itex]y\,=\,T\,-\,T_a[/itex], and thus show the elementary equation

[tex]x^2\,\frac{d^2y}{dx}\,+\,x\,\frac{dy}{dx}\,-\,x^2\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

describes the physical situation.

It gives the "physical situation" equation in the previous problem:

[tex]\frac{1}{r}\,\frac{d}{dr}\,\left(r\,\frac{dT}{dr}\right)\,-\,\left(\frac{2\,h}{b\,k}\right)\,\left(T\,-\,T_a\right)\,=\,0[/tex]

Homework Equations



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondimensionalization"

The Attempt at a Solution



Re-expressing the constants

[tex]z\,=\,\frac{2\,h}{b\,k}[/tex]

solving the dimensionless radial coordinate for r

[tex]r\,=\,\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}[/tex]

Now, I substitute these along with [itex]y\,=\,T\,-\,T_a[/tex] into the "physical situation" equation that I am supposed to non-dimensionalize<br /> <br /> [tex]\frac{\sqrt{z}}{x}\,\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,\left[\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)\,\frac{dT}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\right]\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]<br /> <br /> What do I do about the denominator in the second and fourth fractions?<br /> <br /> [tex]\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}[/tex][/itex]
 
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It looks like sqrt(z) is just a constant. So d(x/sqrt(z))=dx/sqrt(z). z should cancel out of the equation altogether.
 
Yes, [itex]\sqrt{z}[/itex] is only a constant.

So you are saying that

[tex]\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,=\,\frac{d}{\frac{dx}{\sqrt{z}}}[/tex]

Right? So, does that mean that

[tex]\frac{d}{\frac{dx}{\sqrt{z}}}\,=\,\frac{d\sqrt{z}}{dx}\,=\,\frac{d}{dx}\sqrt{z}\,=\,0[/tex]

since [itex]\sqrt{z}[/itex] is constant?
 
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Riggghhhhtttt.
 
But when I apply that to the equation above

[tex]\frac{\sqrt{z}}{x}\,\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,\left[\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)\,\frac{dT}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\right]\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

There is division by zero and it just zeros out the whole equation. I am supposed to show that it is of the form

[tex]x^2\,\frac{d^2y}{dx}\,+\,x\,\frac{dy}{dx}\,-\,x^2\,y\,=\,0[/tex]
 
Division by zero? z is nonzero. It cancels inside the brackets and gives a common factor of z for the two terms.
 
[tex]\frac{\sqrt{z}}{x}\,\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,\left[\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)\,\frac{dT}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\right]\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

The [itex]\frac{\sqrt{z}}{x}[/itex] terms cancel each other out to one

[tex]\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,\frac{dT}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

Now what? Multiply it all by [itex]d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)[/itex]?

If I do that, I get

[tex]d\left(dT\right)\,-\,\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

Then what?
 
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Division by zero? z is nonzero. It cancels inside the brackets and gives a common factor of z for the two terms.

It (sqrt(z)) cancels inside the brackets and gives a common factor of z for the two terms on the left hand side of the equation. Which can be factored out. 0/z=0. That is not division by zero. Don't make me repeat this again.
 
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You are saying that z "cancels inside the brackets". Can you show how you arrive at that conclusion, because I don't see how z cancels.
 
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Ok. (x/sqrt(z))*dT/d(x/sqrt(z))=(x/sqrt(z))*sqrt(z)*(dT/dx)=x*(dT/dx). 1/sqrt(z) is in the denominator of the differential. Move it into the numerator as sqrt(z) and then cancel with the sqrt(z) in the denominator of the first factor. Differentials are a lot like fractions if that is what is bothering you.
 
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OIC, from the equality in the third post

[tex]\frac{d}{d\left(\frac{x}{\sqrt{z}}\right)}\,=\,\frac{d}{\frac{dx}{\sqrt{z}}}\,=\,\sqrt{z}\,\frac{d}{dx}[/tex]

If I apply that to the steady-state heat balance equation as you have shown, I get

[tex]\frac{\sqrt{z}}{x}\,\sqrt{z}\,\frac{d}{dx}\left(x\,\frac{dT}{dx}\right)\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

[tex]\frac{z}{x}\,\frac{d}{dx}\left(x\,\frac{dT}{dx}\right)\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

[tex]\frac{z}{x}\left(\frac{dT}{dx}\,+\,x\,\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\right)\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

[tex]z\,\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,\frac{z}{x}\,\frac{dT}{dx}\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

Which is the form I am looking to show if I consider [itex]z\,=\,x^2[/itex].

[tex]x^2\,\frac{d^2y}{dx}\,+\,x\,\frac{dy}{dx}\,-\,x^2\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

So, the [itex]x^2[/itex] term in the general equation is equivalent to z in the heat balance equation. Does this conclude the problem?

Thank you for the help:smile:
 
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You cannot consider x^2=z. z is constant, x is not. Cancel z from this:

[tex]z\,\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,\frac{z}{x}\,\frac{dT}{dx }\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

and multiply the result by x^2.
 
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So, I divide both sides of

[tex]z\,\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,\frac{z}{x}\,\frac{dT}{dx}\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

by z to get

[tex]\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,\frac{1}{x}\,\frac{dT}{dx}\,-\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

and then multiply everything by [itex]x^2[/itex] to get

[tex]x^2\,\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,x\,\frac{dT}{dx }\,-\,x^2\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

Why do I multiply by [itex]x^2[/itex] though?
 
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VinnyCee said:
So, I divide both sides of

[tex]z\,\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,\frac{z}{x}\,\frac{dT}{dx}\,-\,z\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

by z to get

[tex]\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,\frac{1}{x}\,\frac{dT}{dx}\,-\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

and then multiply everything by [itex]x^2[/itex] to get

[tex]x^2\,\frac{d^2T}{dx^2}\,+\,x\,\frac{dT}{dx }\,-\,x^2\,y\,=\,0[/tex]

Why do I multiply by [itex]x^2[/itex] though?

Just because that was the form you said you wanted to show in the problem statement.
 

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