Photon Flux vs. Intensity: Which equation should be used to solve this problem?

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The discussion centers on the distinction between intensity and photon flux in the context of a sodium lamp emitting light. The equations provided illustrate that while intensity (I) measures energy per unit area per time, photon flux (R) quantifies the number of photons per unit area per time, leading to different units. The confusion arises from using the same symbol (I) for both quantities, which complicates understanding their relationship. The correct calculation for the distance from the lamp to achieve a specific photon absorption rate is derived using the photon flux equation, not the intensity equation. Ultimately, clarity in notation and understanding the differences between these two concepts is crucial for solving related problems.
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Homework Statement


A sodium lamp emits light at the power P = 130 W and at the wavelength λ = 570 nm, and the emission is uniformly in all directions. (b) At what distance from the lamp will a totally absorbing screen absorb photons at the rate of 1.00 photon /cm^2s?

Homework Equations


1. (Rate of emission/absorption) ## R= \frac {P\lambda} {hc} ##
2. (Intensity) ## I=\frac {P}{A} = \frac {P}{4\pi r^2} ##
3. (Photon Flux) ## I= \frac {R} {A} =\frac {R}{4\pi r^2} ##

The Attempt at a Solution


My confusion here comes from the units of Intensity vs. Photon Flux
From the equations above, I get that
P = R, but this is not the case right?
Here is how I had set up my solution:
Since they give us I = 1.0/cm^2, this means I = 1e4 photons/m^2s

IF, I use the second equation
## I=\frac {P}{A} ##
## I=\frac {P}{4\pi r^2} ##
## r=\sqrt{\frac{P}{4\pi I}} ##
## r = \sqrt{\frac{130}{4\pi 1e4}} ##

this yields 0.0321 m, which is NOT the answer.
I get the correct answer using the third equation, but I don't understand why the first equation doesn't work in this case.
 
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The intensity is the amount of energy that strikes a unit area during a unit of time. In the SI system, this is the number of Joules of energy that strike a square meter of area each second. This is the same as Watts per square meter. (The area is assumed to be perpendicular to the direction of propagation).

The photon flux is the number of photons that strike a unit area during a unit of time. So the SI units would be number of photons per square meter per second. (Again, the area is assumed to be perpendicular to the direction of propagation.)

Intensity and photon flux are different quantities with different units.

The confusion might be due to using the same symbol ##I## for these two different quantities. This is not a good idea.

##I## is usually used for intensity. For photon flux, people sometimes use ##\Phi##.

You can convert from ##\Phi## to ##I## by multiplying ##\Phi## by the energy of each photon (##hc/\lambda##).
 
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Thanks TSny, I checked the units of both photon flux and intensity and got different units.

It's so weird that my book decided to use the same symbol for different quantities.
 
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