Projectile motion with differing heights

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically calculating the launch angles and times for a cannonball fired at a target located on a cliff. The scenario includes a horizontal distance of 400 meters and a vertical height of 150 meters, with an initial velocity of 100 m/s and gravitational acceleration of -9.81 m/s².

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to set up equations relating horizontal and vertical motion but expresses uncertainty about progressing further, particularly in applying the quadratic equation. Some participants suggest substituting known values and simplifying equations, while others point out potential errors in the original equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on simplification and correction of equations. There is a recognition of the need to derive a quadratic equation for further analysis, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct formulation of the equations of motion, and assumptions about the gravitational acceleration are being clarified. The original poster has expressed a lack of clarity on the next steps in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A cannon is fired at a target on a cliff that is 400 meters away. The cliff has an elevation of 150 meters relative to the cannon. The initial velocity of the cannonball is 100 m/s. Ignoring wind resistance calculate the two possible angles and their respective times.
X= 400m
Y=150m
V_naught=100m/s
A= -9.81 m/s^2

Homework Equations



Time X = Time Y

X=V_naught*cos(theta)*t
Y= V_naught*sin(theta)*t - 0.5*a(t)^2


1/(cos(theta)0^2=1+ (tan(theta))^2



The Attempt at a Solution


t= 400/100cos(theta)

0= -0.5*a(t)^2 + V_naught*sin(theta)*t -150

0= -0.5*a(400/100cos(theta))^2 + V_naught*sin(theta)*400/100cos(theta) -150

I get stuck here. I'm not really quite sure what to do next. I'm pretty sure I have to use the quadratic equation, but don't know how.
 
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Hi Hedgehog:smile:, welcome to PF.

Substitute vnought=100 into your equation and simplify. You also know that a=g, the gravitational acceleration.

ehild
 
Thanks for the quick reply!

I substituted all my v0=100 and simplified to get this:

-0.5*-9.81(16/1+(tan(theta))^2) + 400*tan(theta) -150=0

Edit:
I'm not sure entirely how I would simplify further.
 
Your equation Y= V0*sin(theta)*t - 0.5*a(t)^2 is a bit incorrect, it has to be Y= V0*sin(theta)*t + 0.5*a(t)^2, with a=-9.81 m/s^2.
Using the parentheses correctly, you get
-0.5*9.81*16(1/cos2(θ))+ 400*tan(θ) -150=0.
You wrote among the relevant equations that 1/cos2(θ)=1+tan2(θ). Use it, substitute 1+tan2(θ)for 1/cos2(θ). You get a quadratic equation for tan(θ).

ehild
 
Thank you for your help! I understand what to do now.
 
Hedgehog1 said:
Thank you for your help! I understand what to do now.

You are welcome:smile:

ehild
 

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