Ropes/Pulleys with moving weights

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding the velocity of block B, which has a mass of 5kg, while block A has a mass of 3kg. The pulleys and rope are ideal, and the correct answer is Vb= -35.8m/s. The tension in the rope is constant, so it is inconsistent for T=49.1 N and 2T=29.43 N. The tension cannot be equal to the weight, as the objects would not accelerate. One method was used to solve the problem, but it may have an error in the equations. The conversation suggests adjusting the equations to be consistent.
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Homework Statement


Find the velocity of block B (the one to the right) A has a mass of 3kg and B a mass of 5kg. Pulleys and rope are ideal.

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I used two different methods, got the same WRONG answer. The correct answer is Vb= -35.8m/s
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How is it consistent for T=49.1 N but 2T=29.43 N if it's the same rope? Tension doesn't vary across an ideal rope, because the rope is massless.

You can't say the tensions are equal to the weights. The objects will accelerate; but if the tension equals the weight, how would the objects accelerate?
I would leave the tension unknown and eliminate it, no reason to solve for it.
 
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I used this method:

 
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Ah, I didn't see that you wrote "static analysis" above that part.

In either eq 2 or eq 3, you have an extra factor of -1 on the acceleration term.

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Actually, it could be fixed by slightly altering any of your 3 equations; they just need to be consistent.
You said, -ab = 2aa which implies that you're letting ab and aa represent the magnitudes and direction (one of them is negative) of acceleration; but then you have an extra factor of -1 on a3 in eq.3, which implies that you're taking aa and ab to be just the magnitude
 
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Related to Ropes/Pulleys with moving weights

1. What is the purpose of using ropes and pulleys with moving weights?

The purpose of using ropes and pulleys with moving weights is to make it easier to lift heavy objects by distributing the weight over multiple ropes and pulleys. This reduces the amount of force needed to lift the weight and makes the task more manageable.

2. How do ropes and pulleys with moving weights work?

Ropes and pulleys with moving weights work on the principle of mechanical advantage. The weight is distributed over multiple ropes and pulleys, which reduces the amount of force needed to lift the weight. As the weight is lifted, the pulleys rotate, allowing the ropes to move and distribute the weight evenly.

3. What are the different types of pulleys used in ropes and pulleys with moving weights?

The three main types of pulleys used in ropes and pulleys with moving weights are fixed pulleys, movable pulleys, and compound pulleys. Fixed pulleys have a stationary axle, movable pulleys have a movable axle, and compound pulleys have both fixed and movable axles.

4. Are there any limitations to using ropes and pulleys with moving weights?

One limitation of using ropes and pulleys with moving weights is that they are not 100% efficient. Some energy is lost due to friction between the ropes and pulleys. Another limitation is that the weight being lifted must be within the weight limit of the ropes and pulleys, otherwise they may break or malfunction.

5. How can ropes and pulleys with moving weights be used in real-life situations?

Ropes and pulleys with moving weights are commonly used in various industries such as construction, agriculture, and transportation. They are also used in everyday tasks such as lifting heavy objects, hoisting flags, and operating elevators. In physics and engineering, they are used to demonstrate mechanical advantage and the principles of work and energy.

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