Solve Hooke's Law Question: Velocity of Ball After Release

  • Thread starter Thread starter physicsman23
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Hooke's law Law
AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the horizontal velocity of a ball released from a compressed spring using Hooke's Law. The initial solution using energy conservation, v = √(k(x^2)/m), is confirmed as correct, as it equates the potential energy stored in the spring with the kinetic energy of the ball. The confusion arises when applying Newton's second law, leading to an incorrect formula due to the non-constant force exerted by the spring. The spring's force decreases as it relaxes, meaning the acceleration is not constant, which complicates the use of traditional force equations. Overall, the conservation of energy approach is the appropriate method for this problem.
physicsman23
Messages
3
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A ball with mass 'm' is pushed against a spring (with a spring constant 'k') and causes a displacement 'x' on the spring. Once the force is released from, the ball is shot horizontally. What is the velocity 'v' horizontally?

Homework Equations



E(k) = 1/2 mv^2
E(s) = 1/2 kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I equated both of the relevant equations and get the result that:

v = \sqrt{k(x^2)/m}

This answer seems right. However, when I use Newton's second law, it doesn't seem to work anymore. I state that:

kx = ma (Spring force = Net force) and therefore: a = kx/m

Substitute for a:

a = v^2/2x

equate a = a and get the result that:

v = \sqrt{2k(x^2)/m}


Can anyone tell me where my logic is going wrong? My teacher said that the first one is correct. I don't understand why the second one is not.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The force that the spring applies to the ball is not constant, so the acceleration is not constant either. It starts out at some maximum value and decreases to zero as the spring relaxes. To solve the problem using forces and acceleration, you'd have to set up an integral to sum up the impulse imparted while the spring is in contact with the ball.
 
gneill said:
The force that the spring applies to the ball is not constant, so the acceleration is not constant either. It starts out at some maximum value and decreases to zero as the spring relaxes. To solve the problem using forces and acceleration, you'd have to set up an integral to sum up the impulse imparted while the spring is in contact with the ball.

Would there need to me more information provided in the question, or would this information suffice to solve using this method?
 
The information you have is enough. Your first solution--the one with conservation of energy--is completely correct, and here's why:

When the ball is at maximum displacement, it isn't moving, so kinetic energy is 0. Potential energy is 1/2kx^2, so total energy is 1/2kx^2. After the ball starts moving, the spring keeps on accelerating the ball until it reaches x=0, at which point the spring force changes direction and stops the spring's motion. The ball is still moving at speed v (the speed you're looking for), so at this point, kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2 while potential energy is 0. Equating the total energy of 1/2mv^2 with the previously-found total energy of 1/2kx^2 gives you the answer.
 
Thread 'Collision of a bullet on a rod-string system: query'
In this question, I have a question. I am NOT trying to solve it, but it is just a conceptual question. Consider the point on the rod, which connects the string and the rod. My question: just before and after the collision, is ANGULAR momentum CONSERVED about this point? Lets call the point which connects the string and rod as P. Why am I asking this? : it is clear from the scenario that the point of concern, which connects the string and the rod, moves in a circular path due to the string...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanged mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top