Solving Principle of Moments: F1 & F2

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The discussion focuses on solving for forces F1 and F2 using the principle of moments. The user correctly calculates F2 as 3000N by taking moments about point A. However, there is confusion regarding the calculation of F1, where the user applies moments about point B and arrives at 2500N. A suggestion is made to verify F1 using trigonometry, indicating that the original approach may have inaccuracies. The importance of understanding the definition of moments and ensuring correct notation is emphasized for accurate problem-solving.
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Hello,
This is probably really simple but i don't know if this is the right way to work out the answer
i have attached an image containing the problem.

I know how to get F2 :
Taking moments about A:
F2 Cos 60 = 1500
F2 = 3000N

But then it says to find F1 using the principle of moments, and the only way i can get the answer is:
taking moments about B: (F1 x 1.5) = (1500 x 2.5)
F1 = (1500 x 2.5) / 1.5
F1 = 2500N

is this right?

Thanks alot
Cain
 

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Well, you can check your answer by just using trig like you did earlier.
F_1 = F_{2}*cos(30) = 1500*sqrt{3}

You fell into the unfortunate trap of notation. The definition of a moment is that M = B x r, which shows us that the moment is the cross product of the vector and the scalar where the vector is applied. You should go back and nail down the concept of moments, then try the problem out again.
 
Your original equation is not right.

To sum moments, you need a force AND a distance, i.e. F2 (cos 60) * 1.5 = 1500 * 2.5.
 
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