Solving SHM Problem: Stuck Between Textbook & My Attempt

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The discussion revolves around solving a simple harmonic motion problem involving a block attached to a spring. The user is struggling to match their calculated mass of the block with the textbook solution, which is 542 g. They initially used the SHM equation and made a calculation error, leading to a different result. Other participants suggest checking the algebra and confirm that the correct approach involves using conservation of energy and proper substitution in the equations. The user acknowledges the mistake and is advised to perform calculations step-by-step to avoid future errors.
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Hello guys i was trying to solve some problem of simple harmonic motion.
as it is well explaind in the title I'm not getting the same result as my textbook manual solution.

Problem:
A block of unknown mass is attached to a spring with a spring constant of 6:50 N/m and undergoes simple harmonic motion with an amplitude of 10:0 cm. When the block is halfway between its equilibrium position and the end point, its speed is measured to be 30:0 cm/s. Calculate (a) the mass of the block, (b) the period of the motion, and (c) the maximum acceleration of the block.

Textbook solution:
(a) Conserving energy
E =1/2kA² = 32:5 mJ
E =1/2k(A/2)²+12mv2 = E/4+1/2mv²
m =(2/v²)(3/4)E =3E/(2v²) = 542 g

My attempt with SHM equation :
x(t) = Asin(ωt + ∅) and ω=\sqrt{}(k/m)
x(t) = Asin(ωt + ∅)= A/2
sin(ωt + ∅) = 1/2 → ωt + ∅ = ∏/6 → t = (∏/6 - ∅)/ω

We have as well: v(t)=dx/dt= Aωcos(ωt + ∅)
And at x=A/2 → v(t)=0.3 m/s
Substituting t in v(t) we'll have Aωcos(∏/6) = 0.3 → after computation done and substituting the value of A and k i find another number different from 542 g.

Am I wrong? Surely yes, but where? Thanks in advance for helping me :)
 
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I take it you are using a colon for a decimal point?
We have as well: v(t)=dx/dt= Aωcos(ωt + ∅)
And at x=A/2 → v(t)=0.3 m/s
Substituting t in v(t) we'll have Aωcos(∏/6) = 0.3 → after computation done and substituting the value of A and k i find another number different from 542 g.
Check your working - looks like you've substituted something wrong or made an algebraic error where you havn't shown your working.
 


Your final step was from ##v=\omega A\cos(\omega t)##, which gives you $$v=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} A$$... because you found that ##\omega t=\frac{\pi}{6}## and ##\cos(\frac{\pi}{6})=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}##

The task is to find m given the rest.

square both sides and solve for m gives:$$m=\frac{3}{4}\frac{kA^2}{v^2}$$

CoE starts out with:
$$\frac{1}{2}mv^2=\frac{1}{2}kA^2 - \frac{1}{2}k\left (\frac{A}{2}\right )^2$$... (do you understand how this equation happens?) cancel the halves and group common terms: $$mv^2=\frac{3}{4}kA^2$$... same equation.

Work through them slowly by hand - step-by-step.
 


Thanls a lot, it was just a calculation error.
 


No worries - it can be hard to spot these yourself.
The best way to avoid them (or, at least, pick them up as they happen) is to do all the algebra at the start - when you have the final equation, then you substitute in the values.
You'll start noticing more experienced people doing just that - even when putting the numbers in sooner can make the calculation seem easier.
 
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