Sphere rolling up a ramp No mass given

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The problem involves a solid sphere rolling up an incline, where the sphere's mass is not provided. The scenario includes a radius of 20 cm and an initial velocity of 5.0 m/s on a 30-degree incline, with the goal of calculating the distance it rolls before coming to rest.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy, considering both potential and kinetic energy. There is an exploration of the effects of the sphere's rotation and the need to account for rotational kinetic energy in the calculations. Questions arise about the correctness of the initial approach and the implications of the sphere's spinning motion.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing alternative equations to incorporate rotational dynamics. There is a recognition of potential gaps in the original calculations, and one participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their results after adjusting for spin. The discussion is ongoing, with no clear consensus yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted absence of mass in the problem statement, which some participants are attempting to navigate by canceling it out in their equations. The implications of the sphere's size and its spinning motion are also under consideration.

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Sphere rolling up a ramp.. No mass given!

Homework Statement



A solid sphere of radius 20cm, has a velocity of 5.0m/s and is moving on a surface with just enough friction to allow it to spin. It rolls up an incline of 30 degrees. Calculate the distance rolled before it comes to rest on the incline.

Homework Equations



PE + KE = PE
mgh + .5mv^2 = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



I cancel out m, and plug in: (9.81)(0) + (1/2)(5.0)^2 = (9.81)(h). h is 1.27, so I use trig to find the length of ramp, which is 2.54 m.
However, I feel like I'm missing something crucial in this answer, and none of the choices match.
 
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mightymango said:

Homework Statement



A solid sphere of radius 20cm, has a velocity of 5.0m/s and is moving on a surface with just enough friction to allow it to spin. It rolls up an incline of 30 degrees. Calculate the distance rolled before it comes to rest on the incline.

Homework Equations



PE + KE = PE
mgh + .5mv^2 = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



I cancel out m, and plug in: (9.81)(0) + (1/2)(5.0)^2 = (9.81)(h). h is 1.27, so I use trig to find the length of ramp, which is 2.54 m.
However, I feel like I'm missing something crucial in this answer, and none of the choices match.

Are you accounting for the the fact this rather large sphere is spinning?
 


Your KE would be split into rotational KE + translational KE such that:

KE = ½Iω2+ ½mv2 and you know that v=rω
 


Ok. So I accounted for the spin of the sphere.

New equation is (1/2)(2/5)mr^2w^2 + (1/2)mv^2 = mgh

m's cancel. I plugged in .2m for r, 5 for v, and 25 for w using v=rw. After isolating h, I multiplied by 2 to find the distance on the ramp. However, I'm still not getting the right answer... Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
 


What value did you get for h and what is the given answer?
 

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