Struggling to Understand Pulley System Dynamics

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The discussion focuses on understanding the dynamics of a pulley system, specifically how to sum forces for consecutive pulleys. The original poster struggles with applying the correct equations for tension and force, attempting to model the system but finding inconsistencies. Key questions arise regarding the relationship between tensions in the strings connected to each pulley, particularly how the tension from one pulley affects the next. Clarification is sought on how to express the tension in terms of the pulleys above it. The conversation emphasizes the need to establish clear relationships between the tensions to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



it is Problem 3.30.

Homework Equations


I am not sure how to sum the forces about each consecutive pulley I have been at this for 4 hours now. It is sad I can solve the DE questions and not this.

The Attempt at a Solution


I had the first pulley at the top as (where y is dv/dt)
-T+mg=my1

Then I figured if i did it with just one extra pulley I could model the rest how ever it is not correct.

-2T+mg=-my2 (as i set the up direction to be negative and this mass would go up)

Then with two pulleys with the string under it I had either

-3T+mg=-ma or -4T+mg=-my2

What I don't get is how the tension from each consecutive pulley connected to the center of the one above it will effect the system.
 
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The curve of the page makes the end of one line (the number of pulleys) illegible.

Just consider one of the pulleys with the string passing beneath it. If the tension in the string going up from its right is Tn, what is the tension in the string going up from its left hand side? What is the tension in the string going down from its centre?
 
it says consider N pulleys. so the tension of the one come out of the center would be the sum of the two above it? then string to the left would be just T?
 
JoshW said:
it says consider N pulleys. so the tension of the one come out of the center would be the sum of the two above it? then string to the left would be just T?
Right. So let the tension in the string passing under the nth pulley be Tn. What is the relationship between Tn and Tn+1?
 
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