Understanding Heat Flow and Entropy in the Second Law of Thermodynamics

8614smith
Messages
49
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Two bodies of temperature T and T+\DeltaT respectively (where \DeltaT>0) are brought into direct thermal contact. Use a mathematical formulation of the second law to show:
(i)Which way heat flows; is this heat flow reversible?


Homework Equations


2nd law of thermodynamics \int^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}\frac{dQ}{T}dT


The Attempt at a Solution


\int^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}\frac{dQ}{T}dT=dQ\left[ln(T)\right]^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}

=dQln\left(\frac{T+\Delta{T}}{T}\right)

heat flows from T+\Delta{T} to T as the result is positive.

Is this right? seems as if I am missing something out here, does the result being positive show the direction of heat flow? or is it always from higher temps to lower? and how do i show whether the heat flow is reversible?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
8614smith said:

The Attempt at a Solution


\int^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}\frac{dQ}{T}dT=dQ\left[ln(T)\right]^{T+\Delta{T}}_{T}

=dQln\left(\frac{T+\Delta{T}}{T}\right)
The dT is incorrect.

\Delta S_{total} = \Delta S_1 + \Delta S_2 = \int_{T_1}^{T_1+\Delta T} + dQ/T \int_{T_2}^{T_2-\Delta T}dQ/T

You can replace dQ with cmdT where c is the specific heat and m is the mass. This would result in:

\Delta S_{total} = c_1m_1\int_{T_1}^{T_1+\Delta T} dT/T + c_2m_2\int_{T_2}^{T_2-\Delta T}dT/T = c_1m_1\ln{((T_1+\Delta T)/T_1)} + c_2m_2\ln{((T_2-\Delta T)/T_2)}

The second term is negative, of course.

You can use the Clausius statement of the second law to show that the heat flow is from the higher temperature body to the colder one. You could also observe that if the hotter body got hotter and the colder got colder, the change in entropy of the universe would be negative, which would violate the second law.

This is not a reversible process because the system is not in equilibrium at all times.

AM
 
Last edited:
Thread 'Need help understanding this figure on energy levels'
This figure is from "Introduction to Quantum Mechanics" by Griffiths (3rd edition). It is available to download. It is from page 142. I am hoping the usual people on this site will give me a hand understanding what is going on in the figure. After the equation (4.50) it says "It is customary to introduce the principal quantum number, ##n##, which simply orders the allowed energies, starting with 1 for the ground state. (see the figure)" I still don't understand the figure :( Here is...
Thread 'Understanding how to "tack on" the time wiggle factor'
The last problem I posted on QM made it into advanced homework help, that is why I am putting it here. I am sorry for any hassle imposed on the moderators by myself. Part (a) is quite easy. We get $$\sigma_1 = 2\lambda, \mathbf{v}_1 = \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1 \end{pmatrix} \sigma_2 = \lambda, \mathbf{v}_2 = \begin{pmatrix} 1/\sqrt{2} \\ 1/\sqrt{2} \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} \sigma_3 = -\lambda, \mathbf{v}_3 = \begin{pmatrix} 1/\sqrt{2} \\ -1/\sqrt{2} \\ 0 \end{pmatrix} $$ There are two ways...
Back
Top