Vapor Pressure In Closed Cylinder

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In the discussed scenario, a pump supplies water through a pipe, and when a valve at Point A closes, the water level begins to drop. This leads to a question about whether a vacuum is created at Point A or if the pressure simply drops to a low level. It is clarified that while the pressure may decrease significantly, it does not reach negative pressure; instead, it remains above absolute zero pressure due to the presence of water vapor. The engineering perspective likens the situation to a piston, suggesting that as the fluid level lowers, it could create a vacuum. However, it is emphasized that even in a near-vacuum state, the pressure is not negative but rather low and influenced by temperature and water vapor pressure. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding pressure concepts, particularly in relation to vapor saturation and the physical properties of fluids in closed systems.
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Hi There, I am trying to understand if I have a vacuum in the below scenario or simply just really low pressure.

A pump supplies a pipe with a constant supply of water at one end (Point A) the water discharges several kilometers away at some lower elevation (Point B). At "Point A" a valve closes and seals. I assume that the water level in the pipe begins to drop, however, at some point it stops. At this instance have I created a Vacuum at point A? Or is the pressure at Point A simply below atmospheric pressure but above 0 pressure (by some small amount) due to the pressure created by water vapor?

The Engineering side of me sees the pipe as a cylinder and the fluid level acting as a piston, and as the piston lowers it creates a vacuum in the pipe, but I feel as if this is a poor way to look at the situation.
 
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Closed space above anything is (if allowed to reach the equilibrium) saturated with the vapors of whatever is present. Technically even in the steel container evacuated of air there exist an iron vapor (although the pressure is so low we will assume it is just a vacuum).
 
So to be more clear about it. I would have a very low pressure at or near 0 bar. But I would not have a negative pressure (I.e below 0 bar) Correct ?
 
There is no such thing as a negative pressure (unless you mean a relative pressure, which doesn't make sense here).

The pressure you will see depends on the temperature and doesn't have to be low (guess what it will be at the boiling point), you can easily check the value in the water vapor pressure tables.
 
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