What is the Speed of a Paint Bucket System Using Conservation of Energy?

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The problem involves a system of two paint buckets connected by a rope, where one bucket is released from a height and the other is on the ground. The context is centered around applying the principle of conservation of energy to determine the speed of the falling bucket at the moment it hits the floor.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy equation and its application to the system, questioning the initial and final kinetic and potential energy terms. There is an exploration of how to account for the motion of both buckets in the energy equation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on how to set up the conservation of energy equation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the initial and final states of the system, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct formulation yet.

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There is an emphasis on ignoring friction and the mass of the pulley, and participants are navigating the implications of these assumptions in their calculations.

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Conservation of Energy

Homework Statement


A system of two paint buckets connected by a lightweight rope is released from rest with the 12.0 kg bucket 2.00 m above the floor. Using the principle of conservation of energy to find the the speed with which this bucket hits the floor. You can ignore friction and the mass of the pulley. The other bucket has the mass 4.0 kg.

NOTE: it is essentially a pulley with the 4.0kg bucket on the floor and the 12.0kg bucket 2m off the floor.

Homework Equations


K1+U1=K2+U2

The Attempt at a Solution


U1=0
K1= (1/2)(4)(v^2)
U2=(12)(9.8)(2)
K2=(1/2)(12)(v^2)
 
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The equation you have is right, but you have to think about the system.
K1 would be zero, because at the beginning, nothing is moving, and U1 will be the potential of the 12 kg bucket if you set the ground as reference point.
Then as the 12 kg bucket falls and hits the ground, the 4kg bucket will move to 2m, becoming your potential at the end system while the 12kg bucket hits the floor with the unknown velocity you are trying to find.
So it is better if your equation was written as
Ko+Uo=Kf+Uf

Hope this helps
 
wait so, in that case

Ko+ Uo = Kf + Uf

0 + (12)(9.8)(2) = (1/2)(4)(v^2) + (4)(9.8)(2)

i get a v that is twice the answer. the answer is 4.4
 
you forgot about the 12kg bucket which is also moving.
so your equation should really be

Ko+ Uo = Kf + Uf

0 + (12)(9.8)(2) = (1/2)(4)(v^2) +(1/2)(12)(v^2)+ (4)(9.8)(2)
 
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thanks so much!
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