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Check my answer for implicit function problem?
Homework Statement Use the IMPLICIT FUNCTION THEOREM (and not implicit differentiation) to find dy/dx at the point (1,1) when y^5 + x^2*y^3 − y*e^(x^2) = 1.Homework Equations f(x,y)=0 dy/dx = - [f(x)/f(y)] = -[d/dx(f(x,y) / d/dy(f(x,y)]The Attempt at a Solution solving for f(x,y), i brought the 1...- asdf12312
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- Function Implicit
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MHB Josh's question at Yahoo Answers regarding implicit differentiation
Here is the question: Here is a link to the question: Derive Trig Function? - Yahoo! Answers I have posted a link there to this topic so the OP can find my response.- MarkFL
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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MHB Implicit surface area, sphere cut by two plane
Got a little problem here, just want to make sure what I'm doing is right because it's a little different from anything I've done that is using the same formula initially. So there's a sphere denoted as \(\Omega\): $$x^2+y^2+z^2=R^2$$ and its cut by two planes \(z=a\) & \(z=b\) where...- skate_nerd
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- Area Cut Implicit Plane Sphere Surface Surface area
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Implicit Differentiation Question - Stuck
Homework Statement Use implicit differentiation to find y' given y/(x-y) = x^2+1.Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Hi, I'm doing an online course for Calculus 12, and I have been struggling with Implicit Differentiation. I am hoping someone could maybe help me. Thanks. I'm not...- playdohh
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation Stuck
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Implicit Differentiation Question - Stuck
Hi, I'm doing an online course for Calculus 12 and I have been struggling with Implicit Differentiation, hoping someone could maybe help me. Thanks. I'm not positive I'm doing this right but maybe someone can point me in the right direction, this is what I have so far y/(x-y) = x^2+1... -
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How to Correctly Apply Implicit Differentiation?
Homework Statement For the curve x2+3xy+y2 = 5 show that \frac{dy}{dx} =- \frac{2x+3y}{3x+2y} Homework Equations N.A. The Attempt at a Solution 2x + 3xy + 2y\frac{dy}{dx} = 0 3x + 2y \frac{dy}{dx} = -2x+ 3y ∴ \frac{dy}{dx} =- \frac{2x+3y}{3x+2y} have I done this correctly?- 5ymmetrica1
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Calculus problem- Implicit differentiation
Homework Statement e^y = x(y-1) answer must be in implicit form Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I literally have no idea how to do this problem. I have the answer, but that's it. The answer is dy/dx(e^y) = x(dy/dx) + y - 1- thearn
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- Calculus Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Implicit function theorem, product of partial derivaticves
Homework Statement f(x) = f(x_1,...,x_N) : R^N \mapsto R has continuous partial derivatives. Assume that for a point a in R^N , \frac{\partial f}{\partial x_i}(a) \neq 0 for all i = 1...N. The implicit function theorem says that near a, the equation f(x) = f(a) can be used to express each...- LastMinute
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- Function Implicit Partial Product Theorem
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Implicit differentiation in multiple variables
So, as the title may have given away, I'm trying to figure out implicit differentiation in the multiple variable context. I thought a good practice would be the law of cosines, aka c^2 = a^2 + b^2 - 2abcosθ. So I'm trying to find ∂θ/∂a, ∂θ/db, ∂θ/dc. I tried solving for θ and then taking... -
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How Do You Isolate dy/dx in Implicit Differentiation?
Homework Statement Use implicit differentiation to find an equation of the tangent line to the curve at the given point. x^2+y^2=(2x^2+2y^2-x)^2 @ (0,(1/2)) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution So, I don't have a problem differentiating this. Which I get...- Spiralshell
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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How to find differencial by using implicit functions?
Homework Statement R=1/(.55/c+.45/h) find partial equations respect to c. and respect to h use implicit function differentiation of the reciprocal of R to answer what is the differential change in R when c=20 h=30 and c changes to 21 Homework Equations is there any way to make R...- munkhuu1
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- Functions Implicit
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Thermal analysis and implicit scheme
why is thermal analysis done in implicit scheme- pukb
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- Analysis Implicit Thermal
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How Do You Isolate dy/dx in Implicit Differentiation?
Homework Statement Calculate the derivative with respect to x: x/y + y/x = 2yHomework Equations n/a The Attempt at a Solution I end up getting the right answer, but what I want to know is how to isolate dy/dx to one side after implicitly differentiating. I have tried differentiating the LHS...- physicsernaw
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Implicit Differentiation Problem
Homework Statement The P(a,b) be a point on the curve √x + √y = 1. Show that the slope of the tangent P is -√b/a Homework Equations ? The Attempt at a Solution Apparently this is an implicit differentiation problem, however we haven't learned or discussed implicit...- gerard.caleb
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Another question about implicit differentiation.
Say you have x^2+y^2=100. why can't you just solve for y, so y=+- √(100-x^2) then use the chain rule to find the derivative. so y'= +- x/√(100-x^2). Then you can just deduce that y'= -x/y. What is the point of adding all the dy/dx in the equation? Seems like it just complicates it.- jaydnul
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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MHB Derivatives of implicit realtionships.
Hello, Today did me and my friend talked of derivate and he asked about some help. Then he asked me is it possible to derivate $y^3+5x^2=5x-2y$ and i was clueless how i derivate that. Is this difficoult to derivate?is it possible to do it? -
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Implicit Differentiation for a 2nd Derivative
Hello! As of right now (10:13 PM), I've tried 9 combinations of points to solve this problem. It's a WebWork-based problem that's due in about an hour in a half. Any help would be very, very appreciated. Homework Statement I was given this equation: ##ln(2y) = 2xy## and was asked to find...- MATH_IN_A_KHAN
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- Derivative Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Differentials and Implicit Differentiation
Homework Statement I'm reviewing physics using Feynman's Lectures, and I'm finding that he frequently uses implicit differentiation in his lessons. This is unfortunate for me because I never got the hang of it beyond the simplest cases. I'm currently going through the proof that the...- Roo2
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- Differentials Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx
Homework Statement Use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx. Homework Equations xey - 10x + 3y = 0 The Attempt at a Solution = [xey + ey(y)'] - (10x)' + (3y)' = 0 = xey + ey(y') - 10 + 3(y') = 0 = y' (ey + 3) = 10 - xey = y' = 10 - xey/ ey + 3y However, my book says the answer: 10 -...- domyy
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Finding Complex Roots of Implicit Hyperbolic Equations
Hi all, In studying the eigenvalues of certain tri-diagonal matrices I have encountered a problem of the following form: {(1+a/x)*2x*sinh[n*arcsinh(x/2)] - 2a*cosh[(n-1)*arcsinh(x/2)]} = 0 where a and n are constants. I'm looking to find n complex roots to this problem, but isolating x...- ekkilop
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- Function Hyperbolic Implicit
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Finding the tangent line using implicit differentiation.
Homework Statement The equations ##2x^3y+yx^2+t^2=0##, ##x+6+t-1=0## implicitly define a curve $$f(t) = \begin{pmatrix} x(t)\\y(t) \end{pmatrix}$$ that satisfies ##f(1)=\begin{pmatrix} -1\\1 \end{pmatrix}.## Find the tangent line to the curve when ##t=1##. Homework Equations The...- Reckoning of Sand
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation Line Tangent Tangent line
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Implicit differentiation help three variables
Homework Statement I have a question. How in general would one differentiate a composite function like F(x,y,z)=2x^2-yz+xz^2 where x=2sint , y=t^2-t+1 , and z = 3e^-1 ? I want to find the value of dF/dt evaluated at t=0 and I don't know how. Can someone please walk me through this?Homework...- aluvieriti
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation Variables
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What is the Implicit Differentiation Equation for eysinx=x+xy?
Equation: eysinx=x+xy I took the derivative of both sides. For the side with eysinx, I used the product rule and chain rule to get: ey*cosx + ey*sinx*y' For the side with x+xy, I used the sum and product rule to get 1+y+xy' So my resulting equation is: ey*cosx + ey*sinx*y'=1+y+xy', which...- UsernameValid
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Implicit Differentiation Problem
1. Given that y^{2}-2xy+x^{3}=0, find \frac{dy}{dx} 2. (no relevant equations other than the problem statement) 3. So, I solved it like this, \frac{dy}{dx}y^{2}-2xy+x^{3}=0 2y\frac{dy}{dx}-2+3x^{2}=0 Solving for dy/dx I got... \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{-3x^{2}+2}{2y}...- James2
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Implicit Differentiation, chain rule, and simplifying
Okay so, I am having trouble figuring out what exactly to do in implicit differentiation and usage of the chain rule. Like, I keep getting the wrong answer somehow. See, from what I understand you have to find the derivative of both sides then use the chain rule or something and then solve for... -
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Implicit differentiation vs differential equations?
Hello, I have recently started a little implicit differentiation and I have seen DEs before but I know that I still need to work on my differentiation and integration a little more before I am ready to tackle those. Anyway, I wish to ask, what distinguishes implicit differentiation from a...- James2
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- Differential Differential equations Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Using implicit differentiation: Is this correct?
Homework Statement I need to use implicit differentiation to find the derivative of y=sin(x+y). Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution This is what I did: y=sin(x+y) y'=(sin(x+y))' y'=(1+y')(cos(x+y)) (by the chain rule) Now, what do I do? Is this correct...- dylanhouse
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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How Do You Solve Implicit Differentiation for y = sin(xy)?
1. y = sinxy Homework Equations 3. this was my attempt d/dx = (cosxy)(sinxy(d\dx))+(xy(d/dx) im getting stuck. i don't think I am starting it right. any suggestions.- physics=world
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Implicit functions in R2 vs. functions of two variables in R3
Hello, I often encounter some confusion. For example, we have the equation for a circle of radius one given by: x2+y2=1 Now we can't express this as a function in R2 because it's a relation. however, we can still find derivatives like dy/dx or dx/dy using implicit...- dumbQuestion
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- Functions Implicit Variables
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Implicit function / Separable ODE
Hi, The final step of solving a separable ODE is to find a function, f, defined implicitly by a relation G(y) = H(x). Say G(y) isn't defined at y = a and H(x) isn't defined at x = b, it appears to me that when rearranging such a relation to put y in terms of x, the point at which G(y) isn't...- Ted Burgess
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- Function Implicit Ode Separable
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Does CMBR Cooling Mirror Black Body Radiation Processes?
Hello, I am sorry. I apologize for my poor English. [ Implicit assumption of CMBR? ] It is not certain whether this kind of experiment has already been conducted. Still, it need be tested whether the wavelength distribution of 3000k radiation cooling down to 2.7K is completely identical to... -
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Mathematica Implicit function plot in Mathematica
Hello everyone, I have an implicit equation: -155.034 x^4 ×sin(377 t) = 0.0524166 x^6 × cos^{1.414}(-377t)-(0.0581964+0.0442696 i) x ×cos^4(377 t)+7.09332 cos^5(377 t) I would like to create a plot of this function using Mathematica, but I am not very proficient with this software, and...- freefaller
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- Function Implicit Mathematica Plot
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Verify an expression is an implicit solution to a first order DE.
Homework Statement Verify that the indicated expression is an implicit solution of the given first-order differential equation. Find at least one explicit solution y=∅(x) in each case.Homework Equations \frac{dX}{dt}=(X-1)(1-2X); ln(\frac{2X-1}{X-1})=t The Attempt at a Solution I know I need...- oddjobmj
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- Expression First order Implicit
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The role of the Jacobian in the Implicit Function Theorem
I am trying to understand the role of the Jacobian in the Implicit Function Theorem. However, I have had a hard time finding any discussions that use the Jacobian and are accessible for my level. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ImplicitFunctionTheorem.html has been the best thing I have found...- Fractal20
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- Function Implicit Jacobian Theorem
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Implicit Function Theorem Application
Homework Statement Let f(x,y) = xe^{x^2 + y^2} + y^3 + cos x a) Show there exists a differentiable function \phi(y) such that x = \phi(y) solves f(x,y) = 1 in some neighborhood of (0,0) in R^2. (Meaning (x,y) satisfies f(x,y) = 1 for (x,y) near (0,0) if and only if x = \phi(y)) Prove your...- Fractal20
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- Application Function Implicit Theorem
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Implicit differentition: inverse functions,can someone me with my working
Homework Statement I'm trying to solve the derivative of this equation: 1-(x*arcsin(x))/√(1-x^2 ) I've straight away disregarded the 1 as it will be 0 so I'm left with -(x*arcsin(x))/√(1-x^2 ). The Attempt at a Solution I've applied the quotient rule and labelled U= -x*arcsin(x) and...- e_brock123
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- Implicit Inverse
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Implicit differentiation question: can't divide a fraction divided by another
Homework Statement I'm try to implicitly differentiate the function: xlny+√y=lnx The Attempt at a Solution And I got to the stage where I have: dy/dx = (1/x-lny)/(x/y+1/(2*√y)) which is where I have no idea on how to clean this up. Could someone please explain to me how to simplify a...- e_brock123
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- Differentiation Fraction Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Question About an Application of Implicit Function Theorem
Hi everyone, I do economics but am very poor at Math. I had a specific and perhaps silly question about the implicit function theorem, but will be grateful for an urgent response. Suppose we have a function, U(x, y). x and another variable z are linearly related so the function can also...- nonmathtype
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- Application Function Implicit Theorem
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Analyzing surfaces and curves using Implicit Function Thm
for each of the following maps f: ℝ2-->ℝ3, describe the surface S = f(ℝ2) and find a description of S as the locus of an equation F(x,y,z) = 0. Find the points where \partialuf and \partialvf are linearly dependent and describe the singularities of S(if any) at these points f(u,v) = (2u + v...- trap101
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- Curves Function Implicit Surfaces
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Smoothness of curve via Implicit Function THeroem
So I have to determine whether the set S = {(x,y): F(x,y) = 0} is a smooth curve, draw a sketch, examine the nautrue of ∇F = 0. Near which points of S is S the graph of a function y = f(x) and x = f(y) F(x,y) = (x2+y2)(y-x2-1) Attempt: So it is the union of a point and the parabola y = 1+x2...- trap101
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- Curve Function Implicit
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More Implicit Differentiation Help
Homework Statement Find an equation of the tangent line to x^3 + y^3 - 6xy = 0 at the point ((4/3), (8/3)) Homework Equations I got y = -(8/5)x + (24/5). Is this correct? The Attempt at a Solution Lots of algebra involved. Sorry. but I'd rather not type it. I take the derivative of...- communitycoll
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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How do I find dy/dx for sqrt(xy) = x - 2y using implicit differentiation?
Homework Statement Find dy / dx for sqrt(xy) = x - 2y. Homework Equations I don't know how to simplify [(xy' + y) / 2sqrt(xy)] = (1 - 2y') to y' = [- y + 2sqrt(xy)] / [x + 4sqrt(xy)]. The Attempt at a Solution I do everything Wolfram Alpha does here...- communitycoll
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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Spherical co-ordinates with Implicit function thm
So I'm asked to determine near which points of R^3 can we solve for ρ, δ, θ in terms of x,y,z: x = ρ sinδ cosθ y= ρ sinδ sinθ z= ρcosδ so the spherical co-ordinates using IFT. Attempt: Ok so in order to determine solutions, I need to first find where the determinant of the freceht...- trap101
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- Function Implicit Spherical
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Implicit Function Thm Application
Investigate the possibility of solving x2-4x+2y2-yz = 1 for each of its variables in terms of the other two near the point (2,-1,3). Attempt: Ok so using the IFT I was able to determine that I can only slze for y,z. But in the question they ask me to solve for y and z. z was not problem, but...- trap101
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- Application Function Implicit
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Implicit Function Thm proof question.
Assume the function f(x, y) is continuous on R2 and that for point (a, b) in R2, we have f(a, b) > 0. Prove that there exists a real number r > 0 such that for all x, y, |x−a| < r,&|y−b| < r ==> f(x, y) > 0. (this is relevant to the beginning of the proof of IFT.) Attempt: So we know...- trap101
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- Function Implicit Proof
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When to Implicit , When Not To?
Homework Statement We have a surface z^2 = 4x^2 + 2yx + 5y^2 , find the shortest distance to Origin. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution My trouble is , i think z^2 - 4x^2 + 2yx + 4y^2 = 0 as a constraint to function L = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 (Square of distance...- magorium
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Equation of tangent - Implicit or Partial DifferentiatioN?
Homework Statement Need to find the tangent to the curve at: e^(xy) + x^2*y - (y-x)^2 + 3 I just implicitly differentiate the expression to find the gradient and then use the points given to find the equation, right? Or does this involve partial differentiation? Homework Equations...- dan38
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- Differentiation Implicit Partial Partial differentiation Tangent
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What is the process for implicit differentiation?
I am reading about this topic, and I came across this sentence "Remember, every time we want to differentiate a function of y with respect to x, we differentiate with respect to y and then multiply by dy/dx." What exactly does this mean? -
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Show that this implicit equation can be expressed as the vector equation
Homework Statement Show that x^3+y^3=9xy can be expressed as r(t) = \frac{t}{1+t^3} \hat{i} + \frac{t^2}{1+t^3} \hat{j} The Attempt at a Solution I only know how to convert parametric/vector equations to Cartesian, not the other way around which is what I'm pretty sure I have to...- autodidude
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- Implicit Vector
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I seem to lack an implicit differentiation technique, should be a quick fix
Homework Statement u = x^u + u^y Find the partial derivatives of ##u## w.r.t. ##x, y##.Homework Equations Only the one. The Attempt at a Solution I've attempted reducing the problem using logs, but the resulting equations seem no more tenable to me. I'm sure there is a nice trick... it...- inflectious
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- Differentiation Implicit Implicit differentiation
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