Uncertainty Definition and 1000 Threads
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Find number of trials to be done to get specified uncertainty?
Homework Statement This has been bothering me for quite a while. I'm trying to work out how many measurements I will need to make to get my uncertainty under a predetermined value. If say I want the a fractional uncertainty \frac{\delta T}{T} to be equal to or under some value for some timed...- sloane729
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Simultaneity of Uncertainty Principle
All of the statements of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle that I've read seem to state that there is a fundamental limit on the precision to which you can measure the values of conjugate pairs (like position and momentum) at the same time. So is this simultaneity necessary? I ask because...- tomwilliam2
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Uncertainty principle in terms of expectations values in Dirac notatio
Homework Statement Show that (\Delta A)^{2} = \langle \psi |A^{2}| \psi \rangle - \langle \psi |A| \psi \rangle ^{2}\\ \phantom{(\Delta A)^{2} }=\langle \psi | (A - \langle A \rangle )^{2} | \psi \rangle , where \Delta A is the uncertainty of an operator A and \langle A \rangle is the...- Leb
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Gaussian function to derive Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
At our QM intro our professor said that we derive uncertainty principle using the integral of plane waves ##\psi = \psi_0(k) e^{i(kx - \omega t)}## over wave numbers ##k##. We do it at ##t=0## hence ##\psi = \psi_0(k) e^{ikx}## \psi = \int\limits_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \psi_0\!(k) \cdot...- 71GA
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A question about Heizenberg uncertainty.
In some QFT books they say:If we consider momentum p of particle being very great,then the physics is at short scale.Then how can we apply Heizenberg uncertainty principle when the momentum p of particle having a certain value?What do they imply when they say that?- ndung200790
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Heisenberg's uncertainty principle invalidated?
Heisenberg's uncertainty principle asserts a fundamental limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties of a particle, such as position and momentum, can be known simultaneously. The more you know about one, the less you know about the other. Why does the following...- quantumphilosopher
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- Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Uncertainty on best fit gradient
Hi everyone, I have a plot of some data points that have error bars on the y axis. A bit of software I am using gives me the best fit gradient and a "Standard Error", but it doesn't take the size of error bars into consideration. I'm assuming that it just looks at how well the gradient...- kop442000
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- Fit Gradient Uncertainty
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Pre Lab, how to find uncertainty
Hello, I have been stuck on this prelab all day.I have finished all the questions except for the last one, where it asks you to find the uncertainty (or standard deviation) of Fave. I have tried every resource and nothing has helped so far. Any help would be great! Thanks- Habibrobert
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- Lab Uncertainty
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What is the concept behind the Uncertainty Principle?
I'm trying to understand the uncertainty principle. ΔxΔp >= h/4∏ from my understanding of the concept, its not possible to know the value of the position and the momentum simultaneously. yet the problems that i see floating around on the internet seem to just plug in values for mass and...- quicksilver123
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- Concept Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Photons violate Uncertainty Principle?
A photon is considered as a quantum particle, right? However since we know the speed of a photon(speed of light) and hence can predict its position, isn't it violating the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle? Where am I going wrong? Is it false to believe that a photon is a quantum particle?- sarvesh0303
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- Photons Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Quantum entanglement and the uncertainty principle
This question may have been posted before, but I didn't have much luck finding it. We can't know the momentum and position of a particle at the same time, but if one were to entangle two particles (I.e. photons), wouldn't it be possible to measure one quality on each and thus deduce both the...- PhysicsDad
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- Entanglement Principle Quantum Quantum entanglement Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Implications of Heisenberg uncertainty principle
Hi does anyone know how bogulobov transformations are related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?- pleasehelpmeno
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- Heisenberg Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Sensitivity and Uncertainty in measurements
Greetings fellow members, I have some queries on a laughably rudimental topic regarding measurements. Say you have a metre rule with sensitivity of 0.1cm, and you are measuring a wire which stretches from the 0.0cm starting point to the middle point between 7.3 cm and 7.4cm. My...- tyneoh
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- Measurements Sensitivity Uncertainty
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R through a wire: What's the max error in diameter if your R has 1% uncertainty?
Homework Statement I have a wire of some resistance, resistivity, and length. What is the maximum error in measuring the diameter that you can have if the resistance is to have 1% uncertainty? Homework Equations R = \frac{ρ*l}{\pi*r^{2}} for which I substituted the area as \pi(.5...- anban
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- Diameter Error Max Uncertainty Wire
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Does GR produce the Planck relation and uncertainty principles?
Can the Planck relation, and the Heisenberg and the time-energy uncertainty principles be derived, or produced, from the equations of General Relativity?- liometopum
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- Gr Planck Relation Uncertainty
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Heisenberg-Robertson uncertainty relation vs. noise-disturbance measures
Finally I found the time to write my account on the interpretation of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle vs. the question whether it can be interpreted as Heisenberg did in his very first paper on the subject. Although it is well known that this interpretation is not compatible with quantum...- vanhees71
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- Relation Uncertainty Uncertainty relation
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Uncertainty with regards to a science career
For two years now, I have been on PF. I spent many of those months checking PF - largely the academic and career guidance forums - just about every other day, and I learned a great deal about academia, and careers in science and engineering. A few months ago, when I posted in the Mathwonk's...- Mépris
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- Career Science Uncertainty
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Uncertainty principle,examining the «principle» part
In some experiments like Heisenberg's microscope and Davisson–Germer experiment,we see that by using light to understand the actual path of electrons,the electrons are disturbed and so the result is changed(in the second case,the interference pattern is replaced by the distribution of classical...- ShayanJ
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Has the Uncertainty Principle been defeated?
According to this article, scientists were able to bypass the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, creating relative certainty in measurement of both position and momentum. Any thoughts, objections, comments?- markb287
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Uncertainty, Symmetry, and Commutators
It seems the uncertainty principle, the commutator between operators, and the symmetry of the action integral are all related. And I wonder how universal this is. For example, the action integral is invariant with respect to time, and this leads to conserved quantity of energy. This means...- friend
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- Commutators Symmetry Uncertainty
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How Do Measurement Uncertainties Impact the Calculation of Gravity?
Homework Statement The experiment set up is a steel ball bearing is held from an electromagnet and above a switch at the bottom. When the electromagnet is switched off a timer starts and stops when it hits the switch. The height from the bearings initial position to the switch is measured...- trollcast
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- Measurements Uncertainty
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Heisenberg's Uncertainty vs Virtual Particle Fluctuations
I notice that many physicists say that virtual particle fluctuations occur in space "because Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle allows them" Is this really the best form of reasoning? Isn't it actually the other way around - that because virtual particle fluctuations happen, then there is a...- sanman
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- Fluctuations Particle Uncertainty Virtual Virtual particle
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The uncertainty principle and electric field strength
As my knowledge of an electric field strength becomes more precise, what physical quantity becomes correspondingly less precisely known?- snoopies622
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- Electric Electric field Electric field strength Field Field strength Principle Strength Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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A peculiarity in uncertainty principle
Consider two hermitian operators A and B. Imagine a system is in state |\psi\rangle ,then we have: \langle \psi|[A,B]|\psi\rangle=\langle \psi|AB-BA|\psi\rangle=B^{\dagger}A^{\dagger}|\psi\rangle-BA|\psi\rangle=BA|\psi\rangle-BA|\psi\rangle=0 This just seems a little strange,for example...- ShayanJ
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- Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Uncertainty in some observable A
Why do we define the uncertainty in some physical quantity ##A## as: $$\delta A = < \sqrt{<A^2> - <A>^2} > .$$ I know that it can be derived by computing the variance of ##A##, but what is the physical meaning? Thanks!- CAF123
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- Observable Uncertainty
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Particle in a box and Heisenberg Uncertainty principle paradox?
Say you have a particle in a one-dimensional box of length L. The particle can only have momentum values of the form p_{n} = \frac{nh}{2L} according to the De Broglie standing wave condition. Now say I don't measure the position of the particle, but I know for certain that it is in the box...- Boorglar
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- Box Heisenberg Paradox Particle Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Uncertainty of distance measurements for regions between 50-250 pc away
Hi, I am in the middle of a project dealing with the mass loss rate of protostars and hence I am working with the distance that these sources are away from us. I need to find the error in these distance measurements, however I cannot. In any paper (I find) that cites distances it just gives...- Aiveenoka
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- Measurements pc Uncertainty
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Energy-Time Uncertainty Relation
I was trying to Go from the uncertainty principle to its energy-time counter part. i know the maths is a bit off,but the idea is correct? dx=position p=momentum e=energy \upsilon=frequency \lambda=wavelength c=velocity of electromagnetic radiations dt=time now , \lambda=h/p....(i)...- harjyot
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Energy-time Uncertainty principle
hi pf, i am so confused with this energy time uncertainty principle. Somewhere i find that this means law of conservation of energy can be violated for a while and somewhere i find this still being a mystery? please help me out.- dev70
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Energy uncertainty of an atom in an excited state
Homework Statement A Na atom is in an excited state for a mean time of 1.6 \times 10^{-8}s. Then it jumps to the ground state emitting a photon with 2.105 eV of energy. Find the energy uncertainty of that excited state. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I don't even...- Ezequiel
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- Atom Energy Excited State Uncertainty
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Energy time uncertainty principle
Hi, Consider a laser source of frequency f. This source is projected to a target at a distance D, so that the light needs time T = D/C to reach the target. I will consider the particle behavior of light in this situation. I will study the motion of one of the photons. At the exact time T/2...- bgq
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- Energy Principle Time Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Doubts about heisenbergs uncertainty principle.
Doubts about wave particle duality I know that a wave packet is formed by superposition of several individual waves having different wavelength.And the resultant wave has varying amplitudes.And from these amplitudes we can find the likeliness of the object to be in that position. My doubt is...- cartik
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Statistical uncertainty of weighted mean
Hello! I am using physical data to do an analysis (~30k measurements). These measurements include energies, momenta, angles... of particles. I am calculating a value (call it v) at the end after a lengthy process, and if I introduce all the data into my program I did, the result is v±σ...- Brais
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- Mean Statistical Uncertainty
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Can We Measure Velocity with Zero Uncertainty?
could we able to measure the velocity for a free particle with uncertainty equal to zero, could we able to have a certain values for its velocity, and let the uncertainty of the position to be infinity is there any theoretical restrictions on having a certain value for the velocity? is there...- IWantToLearn
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- Uncertainty Zero
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Heisenberg uncertainty principle
Hello! I have a doubt about Heisenberg uncertainty principle. Suppose that a particle moves along x-axis with a given uncertainty in velocity. Can I say something about its motion along y-axis? Thanks- angy
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- Heisenberg Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Basic Energy and Time Uncertainty Problem
Homework Statement A pi zero meson is an unstable particle produced in high energy particle collisions. It has a mass-energy equivalent of about 135MeV, and it exists for an average life-time of only 8.7x10^-17 seconds before decaying into two gamma rays. Using the uncertainty principle...- ElijahRockers
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- Energy Time Uncertainty
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Understanding Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle
Homework Statement The problem and its solution are attached as TheProblemAndSolution.jpg. Homework Equations Δx = λ/sinθ Δp_x = 2h/λ sinθ The Attempt at a Solution In the equation given in the problem (Δx = λ/sinθ), why is the uncertainty of the ELECTRON written as a function of the...- s3a
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Does anyone know how to calculate absolute uncertainty?
Does anyone know how to calculate absolute uncertainty?? A student repeatedly measures the time taken by an object to cover a certain distance and obtains the following data: t1 = 2.432 s, t2 = 2.393 s, t3 = 2.402 s, t4 = 2.412 s, t5 = 2.424 s The instrument uncertainty is 0.001 s What...- nchin
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- Absolute Uncertainty
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Propagation of Uncertainty with Angles
Homework Statement I conducted an experiment which involves measuring two distances (Y and L) and have used tan to determine the angle, then finally calculated the sine of the angles for use in my analysis. I have uncertainties in both length measurements and am unsure how to propagate the...- TheJuke
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- Angles Propagation Uncertainty
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Formula relating to Uncertainty Principle
Homework Statement I was looking at a solution inmy notes which begins: ΔE = hc/λ -1st eqn ΔEΔt ~ (h-bar)/E -2nd eqn Δt ~ (h-bar)/ (hc/λ) Δt ~ λ/2∏c (where 'c' is the speed of light) What formula has been used to go from: Δt ~ (h-bar)/ (hc/λ) to Δt ~ λ/2∏c...- ZedCar
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- Formula Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Is It Plausible for Table Surface Area Uncertainty to Be Nearly 70 cm²?
Another question I have concerns a table's surface area. If L=122.14±0.14[cm] and W=24.30±0.57[cm], I got that S=2968.00±69.70[〖cm〗^2], using ∆S=√((∂S/∂L)^2 〖∆L〗^2+(∂S/∂W)^2 〖∆W〗^2 ). Would you kindly confirm this result? Is it plausible that ∆S would be nearly 70 cm^2??- peripatein
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What is Heisenberg Uncertainty Formula?
What is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle Formula? Here: http://www.people.vcu.edu/~rgowdy/mod/122/xmp4.htm It is quoted as Δx(Δmv) ~ h/2∏ which is ΔxΔp ~ (h-bar) Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle It is quoted as ΔxΔp ~ (h-bar)/2- ZedCar
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- Formula Heisenberg Uncertainty
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Question about the uncertainty principle and unit cell in phase space
In statistical mechanics, nearly all the textbooks say that the volume of the smallest cell in the phase space of a N-particle system is h^{rN} where h is the Planck Constant, r is the degree of freedom. Also these books say that this comes from the uncertainty principle. However, the...- Icefrog
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- Cell Phase Phase space Principle Space Uncertainty Uncertainty principle Unit Unit cell
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Uncertainty for least squares fit
I am fitting data to a parabolic equation using the least squares fit method. Each data point that goes into the fit is the average of 5 data points at that x value, so that each point has error bars that come from the standard deviation of those 5 y values. I have a fitted equation, and I...- LizardCobra
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- Fit Least squares Squares Uncertainty
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Using uncertainty principle to find minimum Kinetic Energy expectation value
Homework Statement Assume that a particle travels with a certain known (average) velocity ##v = \left\langle\hat{p}/m\right\rangle##. You know it's position with an uncertainty ##Δx##. Use the uncertainty principle to determine the least possible value for the article's kinetic energy...- AluminumFalc
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- Energy Expectation Expectation value Kinetic Kinetic energy Minimum Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle Value
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Uncertainty in position for eigenstates (Liboff 3.10)
Homework Statement From Liboff edition 4: For the state ψ(x,t)=A exp(x-x0)2 / {4a2} * exp(ip0x)/hbar * exp (-iω0t) show that (Δx)2 = a2 then argue the consistency of this conclusion with the change in shape that |ψ2| suffers with a change in the parameter a Homework...- WyoChuck
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- Eigenstates Position Uncertainty
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Lagrangian visualisation and Uncertainty Principle
Probably, the essence of quantum theory (QT) is principle of uncertainty (HUP). The essence of QT is also the fact that Fourier transformation of wave function in phase(?) space gives wave function in momentum space. If one wave function is Gaussian (and so both ones) this gives HUP. Very...- exponent137
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- Lagrangian Principle Uncertainty Uncertainty principle Visualisation
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Prove Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle for Ground State Harmonic Oscillator
Ground State Wave Equation: ψ0=(a/∏)(1/4)e(-ax2/2) Prove the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle ≥h(bar)/2 by way of expectation values. First I found <x>=0 because it was an odd function then I found <Px>=0 because it was an odd function Then <x2>=∫(a/∏)(1/2)x2e(-ax2)/2dx=1/2a by way of...- Sciencenerd3
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- Ground Ground state Harmonic Harmonic oscillator Heisenberg Oscillator Principle State Uncertainty Uncertainty principle
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Rejecting the Semiclassical Bohr Model: Examining the Uncertainty Relation
"Show that the uncertainty relation forces us to reject the semiclassical Bohr [...]" Homework Statement The problem along with the solution is attached as TheProblemAndSolution.jpg. Homework Equations Uncertainty principle/relation. The Attempt at a Solution Why is it the consideration of...- s3a
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- Bohr Bohr model Model Relation Uncertainty Uncertainty relation
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Find Volume, SF & Uncertainty of Iron Sphere
A copper cylinder has a mass of 56.09g with an uncertainty of +/- 0.01g, how do I find the absolute uncertainty and the relative uncertainty? An iron sphere has measurements: Height = 2.3cm +/- 0.05 Diameter = 2.3cm +/- 0.05 Mass = 66.69g +/- 0.01 Find the volume with the correct unit...- helpmepls1231
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- Relative Uncertainty
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