Following limit is to be evaluated

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the limit of the expression ( (x-1)/(x+4) )^(3x+1) as x approaches infinity. The initial approach involved taking the natural logarithm and applying L'Hôpital's rule, but a mistake was identified in the differentiation process, specifically neglecting the Chain Rule. The correct differentiation leads to a different evaluation of the limit, suggesting that the limit approaches e^(-15) instead of infinity. Additionally, a hint is provided to simplify the expression by rewriting it as 1 - (5/(x+4)), which aids in understanding the limit behavior. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful differentiation and the use of limit properties in calculus.
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the following limit is to be evaluated as x-->infinity

(\frac{x-1}{x+4})^{3x+1}

here is the work I've done

taking the natural log:

3x+1 ln(\frac{x-1}{x+4})

to make it an indeterminant form i write it in the following way:

\frac{ln\frac{x-1}{x+4}}{\frac{1}{3x+1}}

applying l'hopital's rule to this yields:

\frac{\frac{x+4}{x-1}}{\frac{-3}{(3x+1)^2}}

simplifying:

\frac{x+4(3x+1)^2}{-3(x-1)}

now noticing that the degree of the numerator is 3 and the denominator is 1, the limit as x--> infinity is infinity.. exponentiating gives e to the infinity...the answer to this is apparently 0 as i found when i graphed the function...where did i go wrong and how to correct this?
 
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thenewbosco said:
applying l'hopital's rule to this yields:

\frac{\frac{x+4}{x-1}}{\frac{-3}{(3x+1)^2}}

That step is wrong. If you differentiate \ln(\frac{x-1}{x+4}), you get:

\frac{d}{dx}\ln(\frac{x-1}{x+4})=\frac{x+4}{x-1}\frac{d}{dx}(\frac{x+4}{x-1})[/itex].<br /> <br /> You forgot about the Chain Rule.
 
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Just for thought...are you to evaluate it using the limiting process and l'hopital's rule or are you permitted to just eyeball it? Cuase if you only need to eyeball it, I got a neat pointer for ya. If not, no worries
 
That is much like this limit
\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}\left(1+\frac{a}{x}\right)^x=e^a
try to make use of this
 
I have a hunch it's something like e^{-15}.

Hint

\frac{x-1}{x+4}=1-\frac{5}{x+4}

and the one in post #4.

Daniel.
 
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