Problems with Electric Field questions

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The discussion revolves around finding the point on the x-axis where the net electric field is zero for two charges, q1 and q2, located 20cm apart. The original poster's calculations led to incorrect results, yielding values of -0.863325 or 0.463325 instead of the book's answer of 8.3cm. A key mistake identified was in the simplification of the equations, particularly in handling the relationship between q1 and q2. By substituting q2 with 2q1 and simplifying the equations, the correct quadratic form can be derived. Ultimately, the resolution emphasizes careful algebraic manipulation and recognizing charge relationships in electric field problems.
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Homework Statement


Find the point on the x-axis where the net electric field is zero for two particles of charges q1=1x10^-9C and q2=2x10^-9C. Assume q1 and q2 are 20cm apart. Assume q1 is located at x=0.

I solved this but it's not the same as the book's answer.. GAH! What do you guys get? Thanks.

Homework Equations


Enet=E1+E2, Enet=0 => |E1|=|E2|

E=kq/r² where q is the charge creating the field

The Attempt at a Solution


E1=kq1/r²
E2=kq2/(.2m - r)²

kq1/r²=kq2/(.2m - r)²
q1/r²=q2/(.2m - r)²
q1(.2m - r)²=q2r²
q1(.2m - r)²=q2r²
q1(0.4m-0.4mr+r²)-q2r²=0 <------ There's my mistake
(q1)0.4m-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)r²-q2r²=0
(q1-q2)r²-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)0.4m=0
((1E-9C)-(2E-9C))r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.4m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.4m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(4E-10C)mr+(4E-10C)m=0
(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-10)=0
r=-0.863325 or r=0.463325

The answer in the book is 8.3cm. Where did I go wrong?
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Edit:
q1(.2m - r)²=q2r²
q1(0.04m-0.4mr+r²)-q2r²=0
(q1)0.04m-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)r²-q2r²=0
(q1-q2)r²-(q1)0.4mr+(q1)0.04m=0
((1E-9C)-(2E-9C))r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.04m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(1E-9C)0.4mr+(1E-9C)0.04m=0
(-1E-9C)r²-(4E-10C)mr+(4E-11C)m=0
(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-11)=0
Positive r comes out to 8.3cm
 
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do you realize that Q2 has charge two times of Q1? Simply suibstitute Q2 with 2Q1 and cancel out the Q1s and your equations will appear much simpler.

I managed to simplify the equation into a quadratic equation offhand. You should arrive at a quadratic equation.
 
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Right, you can see:

(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-10)=0 before I found my mistake and
(-1E-9)r²-(4E-10)r+(4E-11)=0 after I found my mistake.

Those are quadratic equations.
 
to tell you the truth, I was actually too lazy to go through those equations. It was a pain for my eyes hah.

But the point is if you know that your steps were correct, that means somewhere along the line you had a simple miscalculation.
 
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