Solving Equations for Track Graph on Microsoft Excel

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The discussion revolves around finding equations for a 2D track graph in Microsoft Excel, focusing on variables like height, distance, and centripetal acceleration. The user is struggling with several equations, particularly for Initial Energy (IE) without and with centripetal acceleration, and seeks clarification on how to derive these equations. There is confusion about the relationship between total energy, kinetic energy, and how to incorporate centripetal acceleration into the calculations. Additionally, the user questions how to determine the radius for track segments and how to calculate speed with centripetal acceleration. Overall, the user is looking for guidance on correcting their equations and understanding the underlying physics concepts.
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I am having some problems with equations for a problem. The problem isn't really a question, it's more of finding equations to make something work. Basically, It is a graph on Microsoft Excel, that resembles a 2D track. The track has variable points that you can change, to increase height, distance, Coefficient of Friction, Centripetal Acceleration, Force Centripetal, etc. I have some equations figured out, but I am stuck on a few. Here is what i have and what i need, any help is appreciated. (remember there are no numbers, just equations)

The first is IE ( Initial Energy ) without Centripetal Acceleration added. I have no idea where to even start with this equation, but i assume that Initial Energy is the greatest kinetic Energy, minus the Kinetic Energy at the point you are? I need a lot of help there. Final Equation: TE - KE

The second is IE of Individual Track segment with Centripetal Acceleration added. For this, I assume that it is once again the Total Energy minus the Kinetic Energy at that point plus ( Velocity^2 / Radius ) I don't know exactly how to get the radius though ( is it half of the track segment?? :confused: ) Final Equation: TE - KE + [v^2/(1/2)(TrackSegmentLength)]

The third is Speed with Centripetal Acceleration. For this I think I have it, but since i have Kinetic Energy as a Given, I would use the Equation v=SquareRoot(KE/.5m)

The fourth is Distance Traveled, for this, wouldn't it be the new track segment plus all of the previous track segments?? :confused: Final Equation: New Track + All Previous Track


That is all i have, please correct me on equations if I'm wrong, or if you need clarification id be glad to give it to you.
 
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What do u mean by centripetal acceleration added? when the centripetal acceleration is added, it shouldn't change the speed and only change the direction? no?
 
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yes, Think of a track that goes up and down at random points...thats what its saying...so what is the speed with Centripetal acceleration added..I am still very confused..because none of my equations are working :confused: :cry:
 
the speed should still be the same as the initial speed.
 
But what about Initial energy and speed? how do I get them without having Total Energy?
 
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