Temperature and Frequency: Calculating Percent Difference for Piano Tuning

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The discussion revolves around calculating the percentage difference in piano tuning due to temperature changes, specifically from 20.0°C to 6.32°C. Participants are using the equation V = Square Root (3RT/M) and the formula V = 331 + 0.6(T) to determine the velocities at both temperatures. Initial calculations yielded a percent difference of 2.34% and later 2.39%, but these were not accepted as correct. Confusion arises regarding the application of the formulas and whether the issue lies in the calculations or the provided answer. The conversation highlights the challenges of understanding the relationship between temperature and sound frequency in piano tuning.
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Homework Statement


A piano is to be tuned at 20.0°C. However, when the temperature has lowered to 6.32°C, the piano will be off tune. By what percentage will the piano be off key at this low temperature?


Homework Equations


V = Square Root (3RT/M)


The Attempt at a Solution


T must be in Kelvins, so 20--> 293 K and 6.32--> 279.47 K

Because 3R/M is constant for both temperatures, you can ignore that in the equation so it is just the square root of temperature.
V1 = Sqrt (293)
V2 = Sqrt (279.47)

To find the percent difference, I did (1 - V2/V1) = 0.0234. Thus, the percent difference is 2.34%, but that wasn't the right answer.
 
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I just tried doing it a different way, but that still didn't give me the right answer.

V = 331 + .6(T)
V1=343 m/s
V2=334.792 m/s

1-v2/v1 = 0.0239 = 2.39%

I am really confused on this problem if anyone knows what I am doing wrong.
 
Where did you get the equation from ?
Are you sure T isn't tension?
 
I'm no expert, I'm in grade 11 just like you but I'm a little better at this stuff than the rest... I'm not sure if I'm right, but use the V = 331 + .6(T) formula, and divide the first number (original), by the new number? And you might get a percentage?

mgb_phys said:
Where did you get the equation from ?
Are you sure T isn't tension?

T is the temperature, it is also tension in different equations.
The equation that I repeated (v=) is from the Grade 11 textbook... it is a valid formula.
 
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I flipped the equation so that it was V1/V2, which gave a percent of 2.45, but that didn't work either. I don't think this question is supposed to be that difficult, so could it just be a problem with the answer, since I'm pretty sure everything I did was right.

Does anyone notice anything wrong though with the work I did earlier?
 
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