Thermodynamics, composite bar linear expansion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the ratio of the initial lengths of two metal sections in a composite bar, given their coefficients of linear thermal expansion and a temperature increase. The key equation used is ΔL = α L ΔT, which helps determine the expansion of each section. Participants clarify that the two sections will not expand equally, leading to the formulation of an equation that incorporates their lengths and expansions. After some calculations, the ratio of the initial lengths is found to be L1/L2 = 1/12. The problem-solving process highlights the importance of expressing lengths in terms of their ratio to simplify the calculations.
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Homework Statement



"A composit bar is made of two metals joined in series, with coefficients of linear thermal expansion 2.2E-5 and 0.9E-5 K^-1 respectively. The bar expands by 0.5% in length with a temperature rise of 500 K. Calculate the ratio of the initial lengths of the two metal sections."

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The main equation I think to be useful is ΔL=α L ΔT


The Attempt at a Solution



I am thinking that I cannot assume that the two bars will expand the same amount, meaning that the sum of ΔL1+ΔL2+L=1.005L...

500(ΔL1α1+ΔL2α2)+L=1.005L
500(ΔL1α1+ΔL2α2)/L=0.005

Whatever way I look at this I just see myself going round in circles :/
 
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RJWills said:
500(ΔL1α1+ΔL2α2)+L=1.005L

Are you sure you want the Δ's in this equation?

Also, can you express L in terms of the initial lengths of each section?
 
Hi RJWills! :smile:

What does the question ask for?

The ratio L1/L2 …

so call that ratio "r", and put it into the equation! :wink:
 
Okay so tried it the way you suggested, here's what I did:

500(L1α1+L2α2) +L1+L2 = 1.005(L1+L2)
1.011L1 + 1.0045L2 = 1.005(L1+L2)
Therefore L1/L2 = 1/12 (0.0833...) right?
 
RJWills said:
Okay so tried it the way you suggested, here's what I did:

500(L1α1+L2α2) +L1+L2 = 1.005(L1+L2)
1.011L1 + 1.0045L2 = 1.005(L1+L2)
Therefore L1/L2 = 1/12 (0.0833...) right?


Looks good. :smile:
 
Awesome thanks for the help guys :)
 
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