What was the initial temperature of the copper?

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The discussion revolves around a calorimetry problem involving aluminum and copper dropped into ethyl alcohol, with the goal of determining the initial temperature of the copper. The user attempts to apply the heat transfer equations but struggles to arrive at the correct solution. They express confusion over the calculations, particularly regarding the mass and specific heat capacities involved. Despite revising their approach, they still do not achieve the desired result. The thread highlights the challenges faced in applying specific heat concepts after a long gap in practice.
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Homework Statement



8.0 g of aluminum at 200 C and 22 g of copper are dropped into 55 cm^3 of ethyl alcohol at 15 C. The temperature quickly comes to 28 C. What was the initial temperature of the copper?

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tried using calorimetry equations, not getting anywhere.
 
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Have to give the equations i haven done SHC for 3years although i don't think that that question is hard.
 
heat lost = heat gained
or m1 * s1 * t1 + m2 * s2 * t2 + m3 * L = m1 * s1 * tf + m2 * s2 * tf + m3 * s3 * tf
solving the above equation for t2 we get
t2 = (m1 * s1/m2 * s2) * (tf - t1) + (m3/m2 * s2) * (s3 * tf - L)
m1 = 11 g = 11 * 10^-3 kg
s1 = 900 J/kg/K
t1 = 200 oC = (200 + 273) K = 473 K
m2 = 21 g = 21 * 10^-3 kg
s2 = 387 J/kg/K
t2 = the initial temperature of copper
m3 = ρ * V = 790 * 46 * (10^-2)^3 = 36.34 * 10^-3 kg
L is the latent heat of fusion of ethyl alcohol and is equal to 1.08 * 10^5 J/kg
tf = 22 oC = (22 + 273) K = 295 Knot working.
 
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I do not see any water in the problem.

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thanks for the notice, edited it, and stil not getting the correct answer
 
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