Group Definition and 1000 Threads

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    Proof of a linear operator acting on an inverse of a group element

    Hey guys! Basically, I was wondering how to prove the following statement. I've seen it in the Hamermesh textbook without proof, so I wanted to know how you go about doing it. Let's say you have a group element g_{1}, which has a corresponding inverse g_{1}^{-1}. Let's also define a linear...
  2. D

    Finding the elements of a group given two generators and relations

    Hey everyone Let's say I have two generators, a and b, with the following relations: a^{5}=b^{2}=E bab^{-1}=a^{-1}; Where E is the Identity element. What I've done so far is this - the number of elements of the group is the product of the exponents of both generators, which is 10...
  3. P

    How Do Lorentz Transformations Relate Time-like Four-Momenta in SO^{+}(1,3)?

    I want to determine the orbits of the proper orthochronous Lorentz group SO^{+}(1,3) . If I start with a time-like four-momentum p = (m, 0, 0, 0) with positive time-component p^{0} = m > 0 , the orbit of SO^{+}(1,3) in p is given by: \mathcal{O}(p) \equiv \lbrace \Lambda p...
  4. S

    Invariants under group actions

    Hi, I am looking to find the invariants of products of fields under SU(5) and other possible gauge groups (but let's take SU(5) as an example). Take, for example, two matter fields in the 5* and 10 and two Higgses in 5 and 5* (called H_{5} and \bar{H}_{5*}). Then the term 5* 10...
  5. T

    Group Theory: Proving Abelian of Order 4 or Less

    Homework Statement Show that any group of order 4 or less is abelian 2. The attempt at a solution I came across this hint. Since its of order 4 we have {e,a,b,c}, where e = identity. The elements a, b, c must have order 2 or 4. There are two possibilities. 1. a, b, c all have order 2. 2...
  6. G

    Group Velocity of Waves in Gas Problem

    Homework Statement The dielectric constant k of a gas is related to its index of refraction by the relation k = n^{2}. a. Show that the group velocity for waves traveling in the gas may be expressed in terms of the dielectric constant by \frac{c}{\sqrt{k}}(1 -...
  7. N

    Solvable group: decomposable in prime order groups?

    Hey! From MathWorld on solvable group: But why is that a special case? The way I understand it: the normal series can always be made such that all composition factors are simple, but then the composition factors are both simple and Abelian, and hence (isomorphic to) \mathbb Z_p, i.e. the...
  8. G

    Counting Distinct Group Combinations

    Let's say you have a group of 22 people, which you would like to break into 5 different groups -- 3 groups of 4 and 2 groups of 5. How many distinct ways can you form such groups? I don't want to double count groups. Let's say I number the people from A - V. The group ABCDE and ACDBE should...
  9. D

    Group Theory Basics for Physics Students

    My prof has been throwing around some group theory terms when talking about spin and isospin (product representations, irreducible representations, SU(3), etc.) I'm looking for a brief intro to group theory, the kind you might find in a first chapter of a physics textbook, so I can get familiar...
  10. C

    Group Velocity Derivation: Understanding the Role of Ignored Terms

    I was reading the derivation on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_velocity#Derivation Why is the first part before the integral sign ignored when calculating the velocity? Surely it would also cause a phase shift in some time interval and make the waves move forward (or backward)?
  11. B

    Prove that no group of order 160 is simple

    Homework Statement Prove that no group of order 160 is simple. Homework Equations Sylow Theorems, Cauchy's Theorem, Lagrange's Theorem.The Attempt at a Solution Because 160 = 2^5×5, by the First Sylow theorem, there is a subgroup H of order 2^5 = 32 in G. Let S be the set of all...
  12. M

    Prove only group homomorphism between Z5 and Z7 is the trivial one.

    1. Homework Statement . Prove that the only homomorphism between Z5 and Z7 is ψ(x)=0 (the trivial homomorphism). 3. The Attempt at a Solution . I wanted to check if my solution is correct, so here it goes: Any element x in Z5 belongs to the set {0,1,2,3,4} So, I trivially start by...
  13. M

    Prime p divides order of group

    1. Homework Statement . Let p be a prime number, m a natural number and G a group of order p^m. Prove that there exists an element a in G such that ord(a)=p. 3. The Attempt at a Solution . I know of the existence of Lagrange theorem, so what I thought was: I pick an arbitrary element a (I...
  14. T

    Correspondence Theorem in Group Theory

    Hello, I'm following the proof for this theorem in my textbook, and there is one part of it that I can't understand. Hopefully you can help me. Here is the part of the theorem and proof up to where I'm stuck: Let ##N## be a normal subgroup of a group ##G##. Then every subgroup of the...
  15. L

    Group theory question about the N large limit

    Hi! I keep hearing that in the large N limit (so I am talking in specific AdS/CFT but more general too I guess) U(N) and SU(N) are isomorphic. So if I construct, say, the ## \mathcal{N}=1 ## SYM Lagrangian in the large N limit, I can take as gauge group both of the ones mentioned above...
  16. B

    Does every permutation of group generators imply an automorphism?

    I couldn't find the words to summarize my question perfectly in the title so I will clarify my question here. Say we have a group G in which every element can be written in the form g_1^{e_1} g_2^{e_2}...g_n^{e_n}, 0 ≤ e_i < |g_i| . Suppose that there exists a different set g_1', g_2', ...
  17. M

    Determining whether the unit circle group is a cyclic group

    1. Homework Statement Let S be the set of complex numbers z such that |z|=1. Is S a cyclic group? 3. The Attempt at a Solution I think this group isn't cyclic but I don't know how to prove it. My only idea is: If G is a cyclic group, then there is an element x in G such that...
  18. B

    What is the Isomorphism between Groups and its Implications?

    Homework Statement Prove or disprove the following assertion. Let G, H, and K be groups. If G × K \cong H × K, then G \cong H.Homework Equations G × H = \left\{ (g,h): g \in G, h \in H \right\} The Attempt at a Solution I don't even know whether the statement is true or false... I tried...
  19. S

    Is a finite semigroup isomorphic to subsets of some group?

    Is any given finite semigroup isomorphic to some finite semigroup S that consists of some subsets of some finite group G under the operation of set multiplication defined in the usual way? (i.e. the product of two subsets A,B of G is the set consisting of all (and only) those elements of G that...
  20. R

    Relation between de Sitter and Poincare Groups

    Hi, I have a question about groups: What is the de Sitter group?? and how does it relate to poncaire's group? Thanks!
  21. J

    Cherenkov radiation - phase velocity not group velocity

    Why must the charged particle that leads to Cherenkov radiation travel faster than the phase velocity of light not the group velocity of light? One of the sides of the triangle that is used to define cosθ is v=c/n i.e. the phase velocity. I don't see why it's one rather than the other. Thanks!
  22. R136a1

    Difficulty checking group axioms

    Let ##G## be a set equipped with a binary associative operation ##\cdot##. In both of the following situations, we have a group: 1) ##G## is not empty, and for all ##a,b\in G##, there exists an ##x,y\in G## such that ##bx=a## and ##yb=a##. 2) There exists a special element ##e\in G##...
  23. S

    What is known about this type of group?

    Hello. I have been looking into group theory for its applications to subject I am studying. I am not a mathematician by profession or training, but I find it has great use to any analytical pursuit. With that said, I have outlined below type of group that I would like to know more about. For...
  24. C

    Explaining Why a Set with Operation * Does Not Define a Group

    Hi, I'm having trouble understanding why the follow composition table for the set \left\{ a, b, c, d \right\} with operation * doesn't define a group. \begin{array}{c|cccc} * & a & b & c & d \\ \hline a & c & d & a & b \\ b & d & c & b & a \\ c & a & b & c & d \\ d & b & a &...
  25. omephy

    Group Theory Book for QFT - Suggestions?

    I am reading QFT from Srednicki's book. In the 2nd chapter of this book and in the spin half part of this book, group theory and group representation theory is used. Can you suggest me a book from where I can learn this?
  26. M

    Necessity of Group Theory in Particle Physics

    So I'm intending to teach myself some Particle Physics and Standard Model type stuff, I was wondering if someone who's already covered this could give me some advice. I did some Group Theory a few years back and looking over content pages of lecture notes I occasionally spot references to...
  27. A

    Group velocity and phase velocity of a matter wave

    Hi. Today I sat my final first year Modern Physics exam. It went very well, however I got stuck in one question. It asked (i) to prove the following relation for the matter wave \omega^{2}=k^{2}c^{2}+m^{2}c^{4}/\hbar^{2} and (ii) to obtain the group velocity and phase velocity of a matter wave...
  28. TheBigBadBen

    MHB Epimorphisms Between Groups: When is a Homomorphism Onto?

    Interesting question I've happened upon: If there is an epimorphism (i.e. onto homomorphism) $\phi:G\times G \to H\times H$, is there necessarily an epimorphism $\psi:G\to H$? If not, under what conditions can we ascertain such an epimorphism given the existence of $\phi$? I would think that...
  29. N

    Please show me some group theory books

    Please show me some group theory books that considering the combination of quantum mechanics and relativity theory that leads to the needing of notion of fields.I have heard that the irreducible representation of Poicare group leading to the infinite dimensions representation(meaning field...
  30. W

    What's the quickest way to understand group theory in physics?

    I already know about generators, rotations, angular momentum, etc. When I see questions about SO(3), SU(3), and lie groups as it pertains to quantum mechanics, I always hold off on getting into the discussion because I think maybe I don't know what that means. It all seems really familiar...
  31. M

    Proving the Last Term in the Poincaré Group Lie Algebra Identity

    Homework Statement The problem statement is to prove the following identity (the following is the solution provided on the worksheet): Homework Equations The definitions of L_{\mu \nu} and P_{\rho} are apparent from the first line of the solution. The Attempt at a Solution I get to the...
  32. D

    What are some recommended introductory books on group theory for physicists?

    Hi, I'm interested in doing some self-study this summer and learning some group theory. This has come up a lot as I'm getting into graduate level physics courses, so I'd like a good solid introduction to it. Any recommendations on a book? Preferably one that's at the level of an introductory...
  33. C

    Real Time Entanglement from the Zeilinger Group

    "Real Time Entanglement" from the Zeilinger Group And the "Gee Whiz!" article that referenced it: http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/05/29/visualizing-entanglement-in-real-time/ CW
  34. S

    What's the URL for the fantastic group theory wiki?

    I recall visiting a website that was a wiki for group theory and had many articles on specific groups, but I don't find it today doing a simple-simon search on keywords like "group theory". Anyone know the website that I'm talking about?
  35. B

    Phase velocity and group velocity

    I Still don't understand why the group velocity has to be less than c but phase velocity not. Can you explain me this? Thank you :cry:
  36. A

    Orders of elements in a quotient group.

    Homework Statement I want to find the orders of the elements in Z_8/(Z_4 \times Z_4), (Z_4 \times Z_2)/(Z_2 \times Z_2), and D_8/(Z_2 \times Z_2). Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution The elements of Z_2 \times Z_2 are (0,0), (1,0), (0,1), (1,1), and the elements of Z_8 are of course...
  37. C

    Surface Fluorination/Hydroxyl Group

    I'm a condensed matter student with limited knowledge of chemistry or bond notation. In the attached paper, I'm trying to understand what is meant by \equiv\text{Ti}-\text{OH} and \equiv\text{Ti}-\text{F} All I've been able to gather is that these represent "surface groups", although I'm...
  38. J

    MHB How Does Group Theory Apply to Solving a Rubik's Cube?

    Does anyone know what this guy is on about? I understand some of the basics of group theory and I know there's a connection between Galois theory and the solving of a Rubik's cube, but I'm not sure what law he is even trying to disprove here. I'm assuming something with regards to symmetry or...
  39. T

    Group definition for finite groups

    Was wondering if the only required definition for finite groups is closure (maybe associativity as well). It seems that is all that is necessary. The inverse and identity necessarily seem to follow based on the fact that if I multiply any element by itself enough times, I have to repeat back to...
  40. Fernando Revilla

    MHB Music Freak's question at Yahoo Answers (Trace in the lnear group)

    Here is the question: Here is a link to the question: Quick Proof about a Square Matrix? - Yahoo! Answers I have posted a link there to this topic so the OP can find my response.
  41. M

    MO Diagram from Group Theory: Central Atom

    Homework Statement I am wondering how for determine the central atom's orbitals from the point group character tables described by group theory. For example CO3^-2 (D3h) Carbon's (central atom) p-orbitals are described by a1''+e'. The s-orbital is a1' Homework Equations The...
  42. E

    How Is the Volume of SU(2) Calculated?

    Homework Statement Compute the volume of the group SU(2) Homework Equations Possibly related: in a previous part of the problem I showed that any element g = cos(\theta) + i \hat{n} \cdot \vec{\sigma}sin(\theta) The Attempt at a Solution How do I compute the infinitesimal...
  43. M

    Proving Basic Exponent Properties for a Group

    When proving that x^m x^n = x^{m+n} and that (x^m)^n = x^{mn} for all elements x in a group, it's easy enough to show that they hold for all m \in \mathbb{Z} and for all n \in \mathbb{N} using induction on n. The case n = 0 is also very easy. But how does one prove this for n \in...
  44. A

    Order of Elements in a Group: A Quick Check of Understanding

    I just want to check if there is anything wrong with my understanding... Let's say we have a group of order 42 that contains Z_6. Since the group of units of Z_6 has order (3-1)(2-1), it means that we have 2 elements of order 6 in G, right? In other words, for any cyclic subgroup of order n...
  45. dkotschessaa

    Creating an Online Study Group - Options?

    I'll be taking an Elementary Abstract algebra class in Summer B (six week session) at my University. It will likely be pretty intense. (I actually requested/petitioned the class and got it). I want to do what I can so that me and my classmates will survive do well in the class, so I'm...
  46. D

    Commutator subgroup a subgroup of any Abelian quotient group?

    I am new to group theory, and read about a "universal property of abelianization" as follows: let G be a group and let's denote the abelianization of G as Gab (note, recall the abelianization of G is the quotient G/[G,G] where [G,G] denotes the commutator subgroup). Now, suppose we have a...
  47. schrodingerscat11

    Professor or Research Group that works on Nanotechnology-agriculture

    Greetings! I have this friend who had synthesis of nanomaterials as his MS thesis. After talking with him, I realized that his passion is on helping the farmers in the agriculture industry. I want to help him find a research group or professor (for his Phd) in which he can apply what he...
  48. A

    MHB Order of product of elements in a group

    Hello. I'm just beginning my course in algebra. I've been reading Milne, Group Theory ( http://www.jmilne.org/math/CourseNotes/GT310.pdf page 29). I've found there a very nice proof of the fact that given two elements in a finite group, we cannot really say very much about their product's...
  49. C

    Understanding the renormalization group

    From what I now understand of renormalization it is really a reparametrization of the theory in terms of measurable quantities instead of the 'inobservable bare quantities' that follow the Lagrangian; at least that is one interpretation of what is going on. The originally divergent physical...
  50. N

    Solve Tricky Group Problem Homework: D_4

    Homework Statement Consider the group D_{4} = <x,y:x^2=1,y^4=1,yx=xy^3> and the homomorphism \Phi : D_{4} \rightarrow Aut(D_{4}) defined by \Phi (g) = \phi _{g}, such that \phi _{g} = g^{-1}xg. (a) Determine K = ker(\Phi) (b) Write down the cosets of K. (c) Let Inn(D_{4}) = \Phi (D_{4})...
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