Applying Newtons Second Law to Vertical Motion

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's Second Law to a problem involving an elevator's upward acceleration and the forces acting on it, specifically the tension in the cable and the weight of the elevator.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about the relationship between tension and the weight of the elevator, questioning whether the tension equals the weight when the elevator is accelerating. Some participants suggest using Newton's Second Law to analyze the forces and recommend drawing a free body diagram for clarity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the relationship between tension and weight in the context of acceleration. There is acknowledgment that the forces are not balanced due to the upward acceleration, and some guidance has been provided on how to approach the calculations, though no consensus has been reached on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of non-zero acceleration on the forces acting on the elevator, with emphasis on the need to distinguish between net force and tension. There is also a mention of potential confusion regarding the labeling of quantities in the calculations.

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18. An elevator that weighs 3.5 x 103 N is accelerated upward at 1.0 m/s2. What force does the cable exert to give it this acceleration?
A. 357 N
B. 0 N
C. 3500 N
D. 3857 N
(For this quesion I was really confused and I guessed that the force of tension in the cable was what the cable weighed )
Is that answer correct if not how do I find the correct answer?
 
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Ahmad786 said:
(For this quesion I was really confused and I guessed that the force of tension in the cable was what the cable weighed )

This would only be true if the forces on the elevator car were balanced. However, since the elevator car has a non-zero acceleration, Newton's Second Law tells you that the forces on the elevator car are NOT balanced i.e. there is a net force acting. Hint: you can use Newton's Second Law to calculate the net force from the mass and acceleration, and then use the result to figure out how the tension compares to the weight.

Draw a free body diagram: it will help you immensely.
 
"What force does the cable exert to give it this acceleration?" is this asking for net force if it is could I use the equation Fnet=Ft+Fg and If I used this Would it look like this?:
Fnet=Ft+Fg Fnet=(3500N/9.81m/s2)(1.00m/s2)+3500N so would the answer be D. 3857 N
 
The car has two forces acting on it. Tension upward, and weight downward. The fact that the car is accelerating upward tells you that the tension must be greater than the weight (in magnitude). The net force is of course just the difference between the two (in other words, it is the amount by which the tension is greater than the weight). Therefore, your answer is correct, but your labelling of quantities is wrong. You are calculating Ft, not Fnet, using the formula:

Fnet = Ft - Fg

which implies: Ft = Fnet + Fg

which is the calculation you did, leading to an answer of D (for Ft).
 

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