Need some advice on this Electric Field question

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnitude and direction of the electric field required to balance the weight of an electron and a proton. The context is set within the framework of electric fields and forces, particularly focusing on the relationship between weight and electric force.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the weight of the particles to the electric field using the equation E=mg/q. They express confusion regarding the sign convention for weight in their calculations.
  • Some participants question the appropriate sign for weight, discussing whether it should be treated as positive or negative based on the chosen direction for positive values.
  • Others suggest considering the equation W + qE = 0 to analyze the relationship between weight and electric field direction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of sign conventions in the context of electric fields and gravitational forces. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been provided regarding the flexibility of defining positive directions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the conventions of sign usage in physics equations, which may be influenced by the specific context of the problem. The original poster's confusion highlights the importance of clarity in defining positive and negative directions in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


What are the magnitude and direction of the electric field that will balance the weight of an
a)electron b)proton?


Homework Equations


W=mg
E=F/q


The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I did:

W=mg=F
so E=mg/q

My only question is, since W is downward, when I do my calculations, do I have to make it:
W=-mg=F
or do I simply just put it as W=+mg

If yes, why do i put it as +, or why do i leave it as negative, this is what I'm a bit confused about.

Thanks in advance!
 
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hi whatisphysics! :smile:

the question asks …
whatisphysics said:
What are the magnitude and direction of the electric field that will balance the weight of …

… so you need to give the direction of E, ie "up" or "down" :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi whatisphysics! :smile:

the question asks …


… so you need to give the direction of E, ie "up" or "down" :wink:

That's the thing, I don't know if when I'm calculating the force acted by the gravity, which is W=mg, whether it should be a Positive or a Negative. I know how to do the calculations, I am just a little bit confused about the signs for W=mg.

Thanks for replying so fast!
 
hmm … you're confusing me also! :redface:

if the up direction is positive, then W = -mg

if the down direction is positive, then W = +mg …

it's up (or down! :wink:) to you which direction you choose to be positive

alternatively, just say W + qE = 0, and then just by looking at the signs in that equation, you should be able to see whether E is parallel or opposite to gravity :smile:
 

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