Entropy Definition and 999 Threads

  1. C

    Changes in entropy of an isolated system

    Homework Statement Consider two fixed volume bricks of mass m1=2kg and m2=1kg with initial temperatures T1=400K and T2=100K. They are enclosed in a system thermally isolated from the surroundings and are made from a material with a heat capacity cv = 1kJ/kg/K. A) In Process 1, the bricks are...
  2. E

    Entropy and Endothermic Processes

    I am a general chemistry student and I find thermodynamics fascinating. However, I have a hard time visualizing entropy. Can somebody please explain how an increase in entropy can make a process that is endothermic spontaneous? The typical demonstration of entropy that I have seen is on in...
  3. U

    Entropy generation in chemical reactions

    So from the first law for a closed system, dU=dQ-dW=dQ-PdV From the second law, dS=dQ/T + Sgenerated (i.e. the entropy generated) Putting expression of dQ from second law into first law, dU=T*dS-T*Sgen-PdV If s and v are constant, dU= -T*Sgen>0 Hence dU<0 This is a...
  4. A

    What Is the Change in Entropy for Condensing and Freezing 45g of H2O?

    Homework Statement 45g of H2O(g) are condensed at 100 degrees C, and H2O(l) is cooled to 0 degrees C and then frozen to H2O solid. Find the Change in Entropy H2O(l): 4.2 J K-1g-1 vaporization at 100 degrees C: 2258 J g-1; fusion at 0 degrees C: 334 J g Homework Equations dS=dq/TThe...
  5. binbagsss

    Thermodynamics, Entropy, Clausis Inequality, Reversible and Irreversib

    ∫dQ/T≤∫dQ(rev)/T * , where both integrals are evaluated between the same thermodynamic coordinates- A and B , say. - I am having trouble interpreting this inequality. -( I understand the derivation in my textbook via the Clausius diagram(considering a reversible and an ireversible process...
  6. J

    What is the entropy of three cue balls in a bucket?

    I posted this question a couple days back, but it got removed because it looked like a homework question (which, I suppose, is flattering, since I came up with it on the way home from work, and I'm not even a student, let alone a teacher)...so I'm going to try to rephrase it -- but because this...
  7. F

    Calculating entropy, microstate/macrostate probabilities

    Hi all, could somebody look over my answer please. I'm pulled the equation I used off the internet but can't remember where so I'm not sure what it's called. I took a picture of my answer as I thought it would be easier to read than fiddling with symbols here. QUESTION ANSWER ATTEMPT...
  8. F

    Thermal physics - entropy change (latent heat, specific heat etc)

    Hi all, could somebody have a look over my answers for this question please? The value I got for the second part seems quite feeble. Homework Statement The Attempt at a Solution [SIZE="4"]Part a) Key m = mass cs = specific heat bronze cm = specific heat molten bronze Tfus...
  9. T

    Archived What is the entropy of mixing for a system of two monatomic ideal gases?

    I think I actually have solved it. I was right with the PV=nkT, I believe I previously messed up with the algebra. Homework Statement Using the same meathod as in the text, calculate the entropy of mixing for a system of two monatomic ideal gases, A and B, whose relative proportion is...
  10. B

    Fractals- complex but having minimal entropy?

    Fractals are just many iterations of a very basic formula, so they can be described with little information, and yet they are extremely complex given enough iterations. Can they be described as low entropy despite their complexity?
  11. V

    Questions about the derivation of the gibbs entropy

    In statistical mechanics the macro-state of a system corresponds to a whole region in the microscopical phase-space of that same system, classically, that means that an infinity of micro-states relate to a single macro-state. Similarly, given a hamiltonian, a whole surface in the microscopical...
  12. U

    Can Absolute Entropy Be Calculated Directly from State Variables?

    Homework Statement So as a part of a very long question on homework for thermodynamics, I and some of my friends got into a debate about how to write an expression for entropy at a particular state. Homework Equations delS(state 1 to 2)= Cv*ln(T2/T1)+R*ln(V2/V1) (from constitutive...
  13. A

    Does the Ground State of a Bose Gas Have Zero Entropy?

    Hi, can I know what are the ways to show that the ground state particles of a Bose Gas possesses 0 entropy?
  14. U

    Reversible cycles and entropy generation

    I've got a couple of questions about reversible cycles: So if we have two gaseous systems and have a reversible cycle working between them, then the entropy generation within each gaseous system is zero, right? Do turbines execute reversible cycles? Thanks a lot for your help!
  15. T

    What Is the Change in Entropy?

    Homework Statement A system with 100,000 molecules has 2 energy levels, A and B. At first, the 2 energy levels are populated equally. After a reversible process, energy level A is populated by 65% of the molecules and the system is at 293K. a) What is the difference in energy between the two...
  16. U

    Understanding entropy generation

    Hi all, I've been doing some pretty complex problems on closed systems in thermodynamics, and a few questions pooped up in my mind about Sgen (entropy generation). Please help me out with them.. 1. When work is done on a system (like a paddle wheel in a cylinder containing gas), there is...
  17. F

    Entropy limit inside event horizons

    As I understand it, the entropy inside a horizon, the black hole event horizon or the cosmological event horizon, is limited by the entropy proportional to the surface area of that horizon. My question is: does that entropy limit always allow the possibility for maximum entropy of the material...
  18. L

    Understanding Entropy: What is it?

    I know this is elementary, but I'm having trouble understanding the definition of entropy. If someone could better clarify the term for me it would be much appreciated.
  19. O

    Why Does Collagen Binding to Bone Increase Entropy?

    When collagen binds to bone, the entropy of the system increases. Why does the entropy not decrease, since it seems more logical that the entropy decreases since it seems to become more ordered?
  20. I

    Re: Entropy - Actually a question about working in Polar Coordinates

    show that \frac{d\hat{r}}{dt}=\hat{θ}\dot{θ} also, \frac{d\hat{θ}}{dt}=-\dot{θ}r i've tried finding the relationship between r and theta via turning it into Cartesian coord.s, and I've tried the S=theta r but still no luck. S=theta r dS/dt=d(theta)/dt r which is similar to the RHS...
  21. H

    Definition of Entropy for Irreversible Processes

    What is the definition of entropy of a thermodynamic irreversible process? In the case of reversible process from initial state 'a' to final state 'b' ,one may define entropy by 1) Constructing infinitely many reservoirs having temperatures corresponding to the temperature at every...
  22. R

    High School Physics Competition: Change in Entropy

    During a physics competition, I came across this question. My work was \begin{align*}\Delta S &= \frac{Q}{T} \\ \Delta S &= \frac{1.25 \times 10^3 \, \mathrm{J}}{348 \, \mathrm{K}} \\ \Delta S &= 3.59 \,\,\mathrm{\left( J/K\right )} \end{align*} but I was stuck in between two answer choices...
  23. D

    Show extremum of the Entropy is a maximum

    Homework Statement The Entropy of a probability distribution is given by, S = -k_B \sum _{i=1}^N p(i)\ln{p(i)} I've shown that the extremum of such a function is given by, S' = k_B \ln{N} (which is a positive quantity) Now I want to show that this is a maximum by showing that S' - S...
  24. K

    Understanding Entropy and Free Falling Objects in a Vacuum System

    Dear sir, Hi, Everyone. I have a question about entropy. If the object falls without air resistant (vacuum system) , Is entropy changed? If ΔS=0, it means reversible, is it possible that the object can go back to the original height? I know that it is impossible but can we explain that ΔS...
  25. D

    How Is Entropy Calculated in Different Macrostates of Einstein Solids?

    This is the problem: Consider a system of two Einstein solids, with NA = 300, NB = 200, and qtotal = 100. Compute the entropy of the most likely macrostate and of the least likely macro state. I only have a doubt. Is the most likely macro state when each solid has half the energy (in this...
  26. B

    Calculating Gibbs Free Energy w/o Standard Entropy

    This is for my Chemical Engineering class, but it comes down to a thermodynamics question. I need to calculate the gibbs free energy for a few reactions, problem is some of the compounds (1-Buten-3-yne and Styrene) do not have standard entropy values that I can find. Without a standard entropy I...
  27. S

    Why Is Mixing Entropy of an Ideal Mixture Given by a Binomial Coefficient?

    Homework Statement Explain why, for an ideal mixture, the mixing entropy is given by ΔSmixing = k ln( Binomial Coefficient ( N, NA ) where N is the total number of molecules and NA is the number of molecules of type A. Use Stirling's Approximation to show that this expression is the same as...
  28. M

    Delocalisation stability - primarily an entropy or enthelpy issue?

    This question was prompted by reflecting after reading the standard textbook explanation that "the greater acidity of RCOOH vs ROH is due to the greater stability of the delocalised RCOO- ion causing the position of equilibrium to be further to the right". The equilibria can be written as...
  29. anorlunda

    Small scale entropy and information loss

    I'm struggling to understand the implications and origins of the 2nd law. Entropy is such a slippery subject. Wikipedia has many many definitions of entropy. I've been studying Professor Susskind physics lectures, so I'm most interested in his favorite definition: that information is...
  30. K

    Thermodynamics: Explaining Entropy for KiltedEngineer

    I am a mechanical engineering student, but have yet to take thermodynamics. For months now, I have been reading up on thermo and am actually quite interested in it. However, I am still quite confused with the concept of entropy. Its pretty much the consencus that the "disorder" explanation is...
  31. I

    Light & Entropy: Will Photon Energy Last Forever?

    Ok so the thread I was looking at is closed and I cannot pose this question there. The question was posed if light will travel forever or if it will degrade over time and the answers that were given were a bit incomplete. Here is a link to that thread...
  32. T

    Entropy of a black hole after evaporation

    Black holes have an entropy, but they evaporate. At the end of the evaporation, the entropy is greater than the entropy at the beginning of the evaporation. I am looking for an example of a quantitative result for the entropy of the black hole after evaporation (or the entropy difference...
  33. N

    Entropy in polytropic processes

    Homework Statement I have question on entropy for which I have no idea about, please help me out... a) Change of entropy of a gas is given with usual notations by: s2-s1=cvln(T2/T1)+Rln(V2/V1) using this relationship, show that for a polytropic process, entropy change can be expressed as...
  34. R

    Finding the equations of state for a system (entropy)

    Homework Statement Suppose the entropy of a system is given by the relation: S(E,V,N) = a(E,V,N)^(1/3) Determine three equations of state for this system Homework Equations there were no equations given on the sheet but I'm assuming that this might help...
  35. 5

    How are Entropy and Temperature conjugate variables?

    Can someone conceptually explain to me how Temperature and Entropy are conjugate variables? I would imagine that Temperature and Internal Energy would be more appropriate, as I understand Heat flow causes changes in Internal Energy, some of which is used to change the translational motion of...
  36. N

    Proof of subadditivity of quantum entropy

    I'm having problems understanding the trace of tensor products when the density matrix is expressed in its reduced density operators. The proof of subadditivity is quite simple. S(ρAB||ρA\otimesρB) = Tr(ρABlogρAB) - Tr(ρABlogρA\otimesρB) = TrAB(ρABlogρAB) - Tr(ρAlogρA) - Tr(ρBlogρB) This...
  37. J

    Is Time a Construct of Consciousness? Examining Entropy and the Reality of Time

    Apologies if this is in the wrong forum: I am reading Biocentrism by Robert Lanza, and one of his arguments is that time has no real existence outside of animal perception. He says is is the process by which we perceive changes in the universe. The books argument is that everything is a...
  38. M

    What is the entropy of the quantum state vacuum in inflationary theory

    Consider the vacuum state that is hypothesised to precede the moment of inflation in classical inflationary theory. The theory assumes that quantum fluctuations in this vacuum are magnified because of the process of inflation and have gone on to form the real energy structures that we witness...
  39. M

    Entropy of a vacuum and heat death of the universe

    According to the third law of thermodynamics, one could argue that a vacuum has zero entropy, since it has only one ground state and a temperature at absolute zero. However, assuming the accelerated expansion of the universe to result in a 'heat death', i.e. a state of absolute thermal...
  40. A

    Ball does not bounce automatically because of entropy?

    When reading about entropy it states that ball does not automatically bounce up because of entropy. It is just not favorable. I don't get this. Isn't the correct reason gravity? Ball does not bounce up because of gravity! Where does entropy come from?
  41. NATURE.M

    Can the Entropy of an Isolated System Decrease?

    So in my physics textbook, the 2nd law of thermodynamics stated in terms of entropy reads "the entropy of a closed system can never decrease." Now, shouldn't it indicate the entropy of an isolated system can never decrease. All other sources I've looked at note an isolated system, as well...
  42. N

    Entropy: Increasing or Decreasing?

    Everybody says entropy of the universe is increasing. But after the big bang, matter formed, it came together, stars and galaxies were formed, on a small planet called Earth atoms/molecules came together to form unicellular organisms and then higher life. Our brains are organizing even more...
  43. F

    Maximum Entropy in Gaussian Setting

    Hello, I have a doubt about the distribution of random variables that maximize the differential entropy in a set of inequalities. It is well known that the Normal distribution maximizes the differential entropy. I have the following set of inequalities: T1 < I(V;Y1|U) T2 < I(U;Y2) T3 <...
  44. A

    Why is there zero resistivity in superconductors when there is non-zero entropy?

    According to theory of superconductivity, resistivity almost zero. Below critical temperature the entropy decreases markedly with cooling . why resistivity zero when entropy not equal to zero? my doubt is when there is an entropy there is a disorder. then how can move conducting electron...
  45. B

    A Tricky Problem Involving Entropy

    So we learn in basic thermo that for any system, the derivative of entropy with respect to volume is pressure over temperature: ∂S/∂V=P/T. Suppose we have a box with two partitions, and a moveable wall in between the partitions. The box and wall are both insulated to prevent heat transfer...
  46. M

    How Does Entropy Change as the Universe Evolves?

    So we know that at the moment of the big bang the universe was relatively low in entropy; as the universe has expanded entropy has increased, but what about further down the line? What about when the universe is so cold that it's nothing more than a collection of black holes, and further more...
  47. S

    Adiabatic expansion, entropy change

    Homework Statement 1 mol of monoatomic ideal gas (temperature T1) is inside a cylinder with a moving piston (all are isolated). The initial external pressure on the piston is P1. at some point the external pressure is changed to (2/3)P1, the gas undergoes (irreversible) adiabatic expansion...
  48. bcrowell

    Significance for LQG of Sen's result on entropy of black holes?

    Sen 2013 says, How serious a problem is this for LQG? Does this mean that LQG doesn't have GR as its semiclassical limit? Does that mean it's a dead theory, or maybe just that it needs to be modified? Is the technique using Euclidean gravity reliable? Since I'm not a specialist, I'd be...
  49. F

    Why is Cpln(T2/T1) Zero for Isothermal Entropy Change?

    Can someone explain to me why Cpln(T2/T1) = 0? Thank you.
  50. D

    How Do You Calculate the Change in Entropy When Ice Melts in Water?

    In 250gr water at 23 oC(degrees celsius) we throw in 27gr ice at 0 oC. Find the change in entropy. (sorry if that was a bad translation but English is not my native language) The answer is 0.78 calories/oC. But I'm not sure how do this. The formula I have for entropy is: S=δQ/T I find the...
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