Second order Definition and 570 Threads

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    Solving Second Order nonlinear-ODE with mathematica

    Hi, I am trying to solve a second order nonlinear eqn which is y''+3y'=1/(y^5), y'(0)=0, using mathematica. When I type DSolve[y''[x]+3*y'[x]=(1/(y[x])^5) ,y'[0]==0,y[x],x]; I get "second-order nonlinear ordinary differential equation" as a result. I don't understand what mistake I am making...
  2. A

    How to solve this non-homogenous second order ODE?

    Homework Statement y''-2y+y=xe^xlnx The Attempt at a Solution I don't know what I should do here because lnx. Is it possible to solve this ODE with undetermined coefficients method? how can I solve it?
  3. U

    Second Order Non Homogeneous DE

    Homework Statement Find the solution to :y''+2y'+y=t Homework Equations Suppose y(t)=B1t2+B2t+B3 And I believe, Y(t)=Yh+Yp. That is the solution is equal to the solution to the homogenous equation, plus the particular solution. The Attempt at a Solution First Solve the...
  4. P

    Engineering Deriving Second Order Circuit Equation Using Natural Response

    Homework Statement Refer Attachment. I am trying to derive the second order equation using the natural response of the circuit Homework Equations Refer Attachment The Attempt at a Solution Nodal Analysis: v1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{dv1}{dt}+\frac{1}{3}\frac{dv2}{dt}=0 Mesh Analysis...
  5. T

    Numerical solution to the second order wave equation

    Homework Statement Consider the second order wave equation u_{tt} = 4u_{xx} There are initial and boundary conditions attached, but I'm less concerned with those for the moment. I think I can figure those out if I can figure out where to get started. Rewrite this as a system of first order...
  6. D

    Bounded Second Order Differential Equations

    Hello all. I am having a very serious problem. The question states: Find the value(s) of δ such that the solution of the initial-value problem y'' − 4y = sin x; where y(0) = δ and y'(0) = 0 is bounded. I have no problem "solving"...
  7. fluidistic

    Second order DE (hydrogen atom)

    Homework Statement The DE y''+\frac{2}{x}y'+ \left [ K+\frac{2}{x} - \frac{l(l+1)}{x^2} \right ]y=0, 0<x< + \infty. appears when working on the hydrogen atom. Find all the values of K (the eigenvalues) that generates solutions of the form \phi (x) such that \phi (x) remains finite when x...
  8. M

    Solution satisfying initial conditions for a pde of second order

    Homework Statement I have found the general solution to a second order pde to be U(x,t) = f(3x + t) + g(-x + t) where f and g are arbitrary functions I have initial conditions U(x,0) = sin(x) Du/dt (x,0) = cos (2x) The Attempt at a Solution I have found that U(x,0) = f(3x) +...
  9. L

    Solving 2nd Order ODE: du/ds & k^2

    d^{2}u/ds^{2}= cosu[(du/ds)^{2} - k^{2}]
  10. M

    Using initial conditions in a second order PDE

    Homework Statement I have a PDE for which i have found the general solution to be u(x,y) = f1(3x + t) + f2(-x + t) where f1 and f2 are arbitrary functions. I have initial conditions u(x,0) = sin (x) and partial derivative du/dt (x,0) = cos (2x)Homework Equations u(x,y) = f1(3x + t) + f2(-x +...
  11. R

    Second Order Non-homogeneous Constant Coefficient Differential Equation

    Homework Statement Find a general solution to \frac{d^2x}{dt^2}-2\frac{dx}{dt}=1-4t+e^t Homework Equations None really. The Attempt at a Solution I know that a complimentary solution is x=c_1+c_2e^{2t} But when I try to guess say: x_p=At+B+Ce^t and plug into the DE, I do not get...
  12. N

    What is the Fourier transform of second order polarization?

    Homework Statement Hi I am trying to solve problem 2.1 in these notes (it is on the very first page): http://qis.ucalgary.ca/quantech/673/notes/chapter_two.pdf . The problem tells me to show that the Fourier transform of P^{(2)} (t) = \varepsilon _0 \frac{1}{{(2\pi )^2 }}\int_{ - \infty...
  13. fluidistic

    Nonlinear Second Order Differential Equations: Solving yy''-(y')^2-6xy^2=0

    Homework Statement I must solve yy''-(y')^2-6xy^2=0.Homework Equations Not sure.The Attempt at a Solution I reach something but this doesn't satisfy the original DE... Here is my work: I divide the DE by y^2 to get the new DE \frac{y''}{y}- \left ( \frac{y'}{y} \right ) ^2-6x=0. Now I notice...
  14. P

    Second order DE, reduction of order method?

    Homework Statement find general solution of x2y''-xy'-3y=0 Homework Equations two solutions are given, y1=1/x and y2=x3 The Attempt at a Solution i think this is a reduction of order question? the only theory i can find in my text for second order DE relates to constant...
  15. R

    Solving Second Order Differential Equations with Initial Value Problem

    Homework Statement I have got the diff equ problem solved out to y(t)=Ce^-t*cos4t+Ce^-t*sin4tHomework Equations now I have to solve for the IVP and the values are y(0)=1, yprime(0)=-1The Attempt at a Solution I believe for the first part I just plug in the y(0)=1 which results in the e^-t...
  16. T

    Finding derivatives for second order differential equation

    Homework Statement Hello, My first post here I have a numerical problem for Matlab but I get stuck with the basic math... For a circuit I have three equations: 1.Inductance: L=Lo/(1+I^2) 2.Voltage over the inductance: V=L*dI/dt 3.Current over a condensator: I=-C*dV/dt...
  17. O

    Finding general solution to a second order forced diff eq

    I am trying to solve the following problem and am a bit lost so any advice would be welcomed. x'' = 2x' + x = 3cos2t + sin2t My understanding is that I need to find the general solution for the unforced equation and a particular solution of the above equation. When these are added together...
  18. L

    NonHomogeneous Second Order using Undetermined Coefficients

    Hi all, I understand the basic concept of undetermined coefficients, but am a little lost when g(t) in the equation yll+p(t)yl+q(t)y=g(t) is a product of two functions. The specific problem I'm working on is as follows: yll-2yl-3y=-3te-t When I solve for the homogeneous set of solutions I...
  19. S

    Finding the green's function for a second order linear DE and solve it

    Homework Statement So I'm trying to get a grip about those Green functions and how to aply them to solve differential equations. I've searched the forums and read the section on green's functions in my course book both once and twice, and I think I start to understand at least som of it...
  20. C

    Second order, nonlinear differential equation help

    I've been trying to solve this one for a while. My professor wasn't even sure how to do it. Any suggestions? y''+t*y+y*y'=sin(t)
  21. P

    Differential Equations: Second Order Equations

    Homework Statement Find a second order differential ewuation for which three functions y=2e^-t, y=2te^-t, y=e^(-t+1) are solutions. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution
  22. T

    Break Second order ODE into a system of first order ODE's

    Homework Statement I haven't done this for several years and have forgotten. Kicking myself now over it since it looks like something so simple but i cannot figure it out... I need to break this second order ODE into a system of first order ODE's in matrix form to use within a crank...
  23. G

    Calculus II - Solving Second Order Differential Equation

    Homework Statement Which of the following functions are soltuions of the differntial equation y''+y=sin(x)? a) y=cos(x) b) y=sin(x) c) y=1/2*xcos(x) d) y=1/2*x*sin(x) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I'm kind of lost on how to solve this problem. I don't think...
  24. L

    Second order inhomogeneous differentiel equation.

    Hi everyone, Homework Statement I shall find the solution for the following differential equation: y''(x)+2y'(x)+y(x)=x^{2}+3 Homework Equations - The Attempt at a Solution At first solved the homogenous equation and found the general solution for the homogenous as the...
  25. Telemachus

    Second order mixed derivative and chain rule

    I want to find the second order derivative for f(x,y),x(u,v),y(u,v), f depends on x and y, and x and y depends on u and v. I'm trying to find \frac{{\partial^2 f}}{{\partial v \partial u}}This is what I did: \frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial u}}=\frac{{\partial f}}{{\partial x}}\frac{{\partial...
  26. P

    Differential Equations: Second Order Equations

    Homework Statement find a particular solutions for the given differentiable equation. Homework Equations y''+5y'+6y=4-t^2 The Attempt at a Solution Because the right-hand side is a polynomial of degree 1, so I want to have a particular solution of the same form. It's like...
  27. S

    Fitting a Second Order Polynomial to Data Points

    Homework Statement Suppose that you are given a set of observations (tk,yk), k = 1,...,M. You plot these points on a sheet & it seems that the relationship between (t,y) could be approximated with a second order polynomial. a) Write down the model in the form y = Ax + c. Specify the vectors...
  28. M

    Second order ODE initial value problem

    So the question is y" - y' - 6y = e^-x + 12x, y(0)=1,y'(0)=-2 First I found the general solution which came out to be, Ae^3x + Be^-2x I then Substituted y=ae^-x + bx + c y'=-ae^-x + b y"=ae^-x Then I just compared the coefficients to get a=-1/4, B=-2 and C=-1/6 So I am getting y =...
  29. M

    Linear second order non-homogeneous ODE question

    Determine the general solution to the ODE: y'' + 2y' = 1 + xe-2x I know the solution will be of the form y = yh + yp. The homogeneous solution is y = c1 + c2e-2x. For the particular solution, I have been using the method of undetermined coefficients. c3e-2x won't work as it is not...
  30. C

    Multi-Variable Second Order Taylor Series Expansion: Ignoring Terms

    So I'm computing a second order Taylor series expansion on a function that has multiple variables. So far I have this I(x,y,t)=dI/dx(change in x)+dI/dy(change in y)+dI/dt(change in t)+2nd order terms Would it still be a better approximation than just he first order if I included some...
  31. A

    Solve second order diff eq with substitution

    Homework Statement Solve: xy''+2y'=12x^{2} with u=y' Homework Equations if you have: y'+P(x)y=Q(x) then your integrating factor is: I(x)=e^{\int P(x) dx} The Attempt at a Solution The only reason I was able to solve this is because I stumbled upon a...
  32. D

    Second order DE from my midtearm

    Homework Statement Consider the ODE: y''+p(x)y'+q(x)y=g(x) It is given that the functions y=x^{2}, y=x and y\equiv1 are solutions of the equation. Find the general solution of the equation. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution Well, given the three solutions, and...
  33. H

    Question in Proof of second order condition with linear constraints

    http://www.math.northwestern.edu/~clark/285/2006-07/handouts/lin-constraint.pdf It's actually proof of finding sign definiteness of quadratic form with linear constraints with sign of submatrices of bordered hessian. The proof is from page 2~page 3. I have 2 questions: 1. From about...
  34. L

    Second order frequency response question

    Homework Statement http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9687/rlc.png Cannot do this question, the first part confuses me when it asks to find an equivalent Parallel circuit. My first instinct was to try to add the capacitor and inductor and 40k Resistance together to create an RLC series...
  35. U

    Euler Bernoulli to second order ode

    hello, I have read in a number of papers that if we have a cantilever beam and are only interested in the movement of the tip when the base is being excited at the frequency of the first eigen mode , then the whole beam can be replaced by a spring mass system. Can anyone tell me of a...
  36. D

    Solving second order linear homogeneous differential equation HELP?

    Solving second order linear homogeneous differential equation! HELP!? Solve the second order linear homogeneous differential equation with constant coefficients by reqriting as a system of two first order linear differential equations. Show that the coefficient matrix is not similar to the...
  37. C

    Second Order Stationary Process

    Homework Statement Let X(t), -inf< t < inf, be a second order process. Show that it is a second order stationary process if and only if mu(t) sub x is independent of t and r(s,r) sub x depends only on the difference between s and t. Show that is a second order stationary process if and...
  38. T

    Second order differential equation

    Homework Statement This question concerns the second-order differential equation dy^2/dx^2 -4(dy/dx) + 5y = 25x - 3e^2x. Find the solution of the differential equation that satisfies the initial conditions y=0 and dy/dx= 0 when x=0. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution
  39. D

    Second order differential equation

    hi. I can't figure out this question: d2y/dx2 - 2 dy/dx - 3y = x (i) find complementary function (ii) find particular integral (iii) using (i) and (ii) find the general solution (iv) find the solution that satisfies the initial conditions: y=2/9 at x=0 and dy/dx=-13/3 at x=0 i...
  40. Telemachus

    Solving second order non homogeneous diff. equation by a particular method

    Hi. I have to solve this: y''-3y'+2y=e^x, Using the replacement y=\phi y_1 being y_1 a solution of the homogeneous differential equation. I can't do it "traditionally", I have to use this method. So I have to solve that \phi ''y_1+ \phi ' \left[2y_1'+Py_1] \right]=e^x So, this is what I...
  41. Telemachus

    Second order non homogeneous diff. equation at constant coefficients

    Hi there. I had some trouble trying to solve this: y''+y=\cos x +3\sin 2x (1) At first I just found the solution for the homogeneous equation: y_h=e^{\lambda x} \rightarrow \lambda^2+1=0 \rightarrow \lambda_1,\lambda_2=\pm i Then y_h=C_1\cos x+ C_2 \sin x So I've tried to find the particular...
  42. Telemachus

    Question about second order differential equation

    Homework Statement I have this problem, which says: If the graph of one solution for the equation y''+P(x)y'+Q(x)y=0 is tangent to the x-axis in some point of an interval [a,b], then that solution must be identically zero. Why? I've tried to do something with the general expression for the...
  43. C

    Second order spring mass problem

    I am doing a spring mass problem. Unfortunately, I'm not proficient in Tex so this won't be as neat as it could be. Data: m1=1, m2=1; k1=0, k2=2, k3=0 Stiffness matrix: -(k1+k2) k2 k2 -(k2+k3) 1 0 * x1'' -2 2 * x1 0 1 x2'' = 2 -2 x2 From that, I...
  44. C

    Trying to solve a second order ODE

    Homework Statement I'm trying to solve a second order ODE for y(x) to show that the solution is y(x)=sin(x)/x. We've been told to use the substitution y(x)=h(x)/x. I've got to the stage of solving for h(x), arriving at h''(x)=-x. Using the general solution, h(x)=A sin(x) + B cos(x) and...
  45. C

    Second order ODE application question

    We are doing mass spring problems that stem from second order ODE's. I think my lack of linear algebra is hurting me once again in this section so any help would be greatly appreciated. We are using a stiffness matrix of K = [ -(k1+k2), k2 (row 2) k2, -(k2+k3)] Our first problem has the...
  46. P

    Second order pole positions and rise time

    Dear All I'm stuck on something that seems to be contradictory. I was under the impression that the further the 2 closed loop poles are in a 2nd order system to the left of the root locus, the higher the damping. Surely high damping means longer rise time? But other sources say that the...
  47. S

    Ode45 to solve nonlinear second order ode

    Homework Statement I'm given two equations first (d^2)*r/dt^2 - r((d*theta/dt)^2)= (-A)/r^2 --- this is a non linear second order differential equation second (r^2)*((d*theta)/dt)=B B and A are...
  48. D

    Second order linear differential equation

    Homework Statement Solve the following second order linear differential equation d2x/dt2 + x = 2 cos(t) subject to the initial condition x(0) = 0 and dx/dt (0) = 0. What type of motion do you find? Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution I don't know where to start
  49. M

    Wronskian and Second Order Differential Equations

    Homework Statement Given a second order differential equation: y'' + P(x)y' + Q(x)y = 0 If y1(x) and y2(x) are linearly independent solutions of the DE, what form does Abel's Equation give for W(y1(x), y2(x))? If we assume that one solution y1(x) is known, what first order DE results from a...
  50. C

    Second order partial derivatives and the chain rule

    Homework Statement http://www.math.wvu.edu/~hjlai/Teaching/Tip-Pdf/Tip3-27.pdf Example 7. Not this question in particular, but it shows what I'm talking about. I understand how they get the first partial derivative, but I'm completely lost as how to take a second one. I have tried...
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